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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Re: Trump's voice.
My Political Science professor actually possesses an extremely similar lisp. His lectures are extremely entertaining and extremely easy to follow through however.
"Thomas Hobbes. An Englishman with a really bad mood. Grew up in a time of civil war and unrest. Supposedly had his worldview shaped by said unrest. Most famously thought the world was Nasty. Brutish. And Short. Thought a strong leader figure was needed for order in society. . . ."
FBI examining more fake "leaks"
slipped into document dumps by suspected Russian agents. Some less believable than others, like one purporting that Hillary was planting radiological weapons to disrupt voting stations.
Gee, I thought that Trump was the only Captain Planet villain running this cycle.
The likely GOP replacement is actually going to be more in line with the religious right, since those beliefs are fairly widespread among the black and Hispanic voterbase; it's just that the racism (including anti-immigration) and anti-welfare positions were just too off-putting for those groups.
The net effect is that a lot of their problematic issues will be dropped, but anti-abortion in particular is going to stick around. You can't have everything, I guess.
Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)U.S. court deals Trump a setback in fight over poll monitors
.
Some good news for Pennsylvania, at least.
Oh God! Natural light!I can't take any more of Nate Silver.
I want to stop reading 538 because it's only making me anxious, but the trap of that is that his record of accuracy is impressive, and I don't want to be locked out of the loop. He had better be full of shit on this one.
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He's not saying what will happen, he's saying what might happen. The odds 538 gives are still in Clinton's favor, and I think they've even improved slightly over the past couple of hours.
So it turns out that the Clinton investigation by the FBI was based on Breitbart
. What's next, Infowars?
Yob tvoyu mat.
I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiotYeah people need to stop taking Silver's musings on possibilities to be prediction of the future. His action predications currently have Clinton with 66%, 67% and 66% changes to win and an expected margin of victory of 3 points and a total of either 307 electoral votes or 278 electoral votes.
Every single predictor on 538 has Clinton winning the election, so people need to stop acting like Nate Silver is saying Clinton is going to loose.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranIt's undeniable that Clinton's chances have dropped considerably since the FBI letter. What I figured would be a one point loss or two at max is looking more like three or four and this late in the race I doubt the Clinton has any ammo that could stop that movement or they'd have deployed it already. Unless we see a bombshell like actual physical proof that comey silenced calls about russian meddling we're moving towards a toss up.
To compare to 2012: at this date
538 had obama pegged at 85%, up from a low of 65% in mid-october. Clinton has undergone the exact opposite in their model in the same time span. A few more A list polls drop and we could see her odds go to 60, 55 or lower and then the election is essentially a coin flip.
This isn't necessarily bad. We've been saying for awhile now that complacency is Clinton's biggest problem post debate and this is scary as fuck to anyone who thought they could sit this election out.
Is using "Julian Assange is a Hillary butt plug" an acceptable signature quote?So Kurt Eichenwald, editor to the Vanity Fair, is going to drop a bombshell tomorrow.
And considering he has a low opinion on Trump....

If something happens to the GOP, the one thing I'm sure it wouldn't be replaced by is a whites-only party. Because failure to appeal to anyone who's not white would be what killed GOP.
What would it be replaced by? Well... a broad coalition of people who don't like Hillary, seems the most likely. I have this idea tossing around in my head about a party designed to appeal to hispanics, since I feel like the Blacks aren't moving from the Dems any time soon.