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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM

Steven (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#417101: Nov 9th 2023 at 8:59:21 PM

I dunno why I would be willingly to subject myself to watching what a bunch of twits in a bad party has to say.

Remember, these idiots drive, fuck, and vote. Not always in that order.
Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#417102: Nov 9th 2023 at 9:15:00 PM

I do believe that people did pay attention to the 2016ish primaries. Having said that, there's a pretty big difference between 2016 and 2024.

Leviticus 19:34
Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#417103: Nov 10th 2023 at 1:03:08 AM

Not much point in paying attention now. Trump is the nominee, and will remain so as long as he is eligible. If Biden can get a second term, I fully expect Trump to return in 2028.

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#417104: Nov 10th 2023 at 2:42:17 AM

If Trump is still alive/cognizant by then...

Do not obey in advance.
fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#417105: Nov 10th 2023 at 2:43:57 AM

He’ll run even if he isn’t cognizant.

Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#417106: Nov 10th 2023 at 3:00:27 AM
Thumped: Wow. That was rude. Too many of this kind of thump will bring a suspension. Please keep it civil.
Ayasugi Since: Oct, 2010
#417107: Nov 10th 2023 at 3:41:19 AM

He'll probably run even if he's dead. Or rather his self-proclaimed heirs will run in his name.

Imca (Veteran)
#417108: Nov 10th 2023 at 4:11:49 AM

Yeaa... even if he has dementia he is going to run, its not until he expires or wins that he will quit.

3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#417109: Nov 10th 2023 at 5:33:44 AM

2028 GOP Slogan: Weekend at Donnie's.

"You can reply to this Message!"
DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#417110: Nov 10th 2023 at 5:47:35 AM

Polls indicate that if Trump is found guilty, he is likely to lose significant support, even among Republicans.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
Purgatoryisof2 Since: Aug, 2022
#417111: Nov 10th 2023 at 6:37:58 AM

[up]And as another point of note, his presence and constant media attention is why people are entranced by him-if he's locked in prison or Mar-A-Lago, he can't get to anybody and news teams will have to jump through a dozen hoops for a single interview, which means his fans will slowly forget him and how he made them feel, so his support won't jump back like all the last couple times he got in controversies.

Edited by Purgatoryisof2 on Nov 10th 2023 at 9:38:29 AM

MJTrooper Since: Apr, 2011
#417112: Nov 10th 2023 at 7:43:01 AM

Just as a reminder, the closest Senate races in the 2024 elections will be the Lean D, Toss up, and Lean R races. Starting from the most competitive, those are Arizona (Rubin Gallego), Montana (Jon Tester), Nevada (Jacky Rosen), Michigan (no nominee yet), Ohio (Sherrod Brown), Wisconsin (Tammy Baldwin), and Pennsylvania (Bob Casey Jr.).

If we win all of those seats and replace Kyrsten Sinema, the Democrats will have enough votes to get rid of the filibuster. This will allow us to get a lot of things done, like gun safety and unstacking the Supreme Court among many others.

Purgatoryisof2 Since: Aug, 2022
#417113: Nov 10th 2023 at 7:57:57 AM

Those are all democratic held states though. Winning there will do nothing. The only seats that have even the slightest chance of flipping in my eyes are Texas and Florida.

Resileafs I actually wanted to be Resileaf Since: Jan, 2019
I actually wanted to be Resileaf
#417114: Nov 10th 2023 at 8:13:02 AM

So here's one thing we missed by being completely uninterested in the Republican debate.

Globe and Mail: Vivek Ramaswamys wants to build a wall on the border... Between the US and Canada.

Y'know, the longest continuous land border on the planet.

His justification is that a lot of fentanyl (enough to kill three millions of Americans) was seized crossing the northern border last year (except he's wrong, two pounds of fentanyl were seized entering the US from Canada last year).

Edited by Resileafs on Nov 10th 2023 at 11:19:07 AM

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#417115: Nov 10th 2023 at 8:16:41 AM

Well, good for him to show himself to be delusional and stupid.

Wake me up at your own risk.
Imca (Veteran)
#417116: Nov 10th 2023 at 8:17:08 AM

Canada is actualy a larger source of illegal imigration to the US then Mexico, so if they genuinely believe that's a problem... it is at least more logical but there fucked up morals.

Though even there it wont help since it's all visa overstays.

Edited by Imca on Nov 11th 2023 at 1:17:34 AM

Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#417117: Nov 10th 2023 at 8:20:01 AM

The Canada/US border does have some smuggling happening, but one's pretty minor and the other one is coming from the US. Some people try to smuggle marijuana over the border (totally pointless in Washington and most of New England) which has an easy fix, and there's a large illegal gun trade smuggling guns from the US into Canada.

A wall would be completely useless especially because most of the border barely has any activity at all because it's super goddamn far away from anything of note.

Khudzlin Since: Nov, 2013
#417118: Nov 10th 2023 at 8:21:45 AM

If only a wall could stop illegal guns crossing north...

Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#417119: Nov 10th 2023 at 8:25:37 AM

those damn guns are sneaky,they move using a silencer..

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#417120: Nov 10th 2023 at 8:35:28 AM

Like I said, Vivek's done. He just keeps putting his foot in his mouth with bad policy ideas, is just plain unappealing, and he barely criticizes Trump, even though he's running against him.

nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#417121: Nov 10th 2023 at 8:39:17 AM

Well, we (Canada) are definitely not gonna pay for it.

Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#417122: Nov 10th 2023 at 8:41:44 AM

Drag him to Niagara Falls and ask him where he'd even put it. Also, rub in his face that Niagara Falls, Ontario is (superficially) significantly nicer than Niagara Falls New York and make a big point about how building a wall would keep Canada nicer and block out the American riffraff.

(I'm completely joking)

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#417123: Nov 10th 2023 at 8:43:12 AM

[up]Well, as an American...!

You're completely right.

Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#417124: Nov 10th 2023 at 8:43:16 AM

Speaking of fentanyl, authorities are investigating envelopes filled with the drug and other white substances to election offices during the voting earlier this week. Offices in Georgia, Nevada, California, Oregon and Washington all received the envelopes, or had them intercepted by the Post Office before they reached their intended targets.

On Wednesday, authorities in Washington state said four county election offices had to be evacuated as election workers were processing ballots cast in Tuesday's election, delaying vote-counting.

One contained a letter saying "End elections now."

Another had this interesting bit:

The letter contained a warning about the vulnerability of "ballot drops" and read: "End elections now. Stop giving power to the right that they don't have. We are in charge now and there is no more need for them."

The letter featured an antifascist symbol, a progress pride flag and a pentagram. While the symbols have sometimes been associated with leftist politics, they also have been used by conservative figures to label and stereotype the left, and the sender's political leanings were unclear.

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#417125: Nov 10th 2023 at 8:45:57 AM

[up]It's interesting how that letter is almost imperceptible from any other shmuck trying a really bad frame-job.

In fact, I'll just go ahead and lay my bets on this letter coming from no such leftist (in any sense of the term beyond being left-handed). "We are in charge and we don't need them" sounds like the sort of thing that somebody from the Alt-Right thinks anybody opposed to them would say.

Edited by fredhot16 on Nov 11th 2023 at 7:12:41 AM

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