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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#376401: Oct 16th 2021 at 2:01:45 PM

Well, it's pretty unlikely that he didn't have anything juicy to reveal, but the question is whether he'd give anything real or just blow hot air to the officers.

Wake me up at your own risk.
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#376402: Oct 16th 2021 at 2:11:25 PM

Considering the kind of parties he gave and the connections he had, it could well have been real dirt.

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#376403: Oct 16th 2021 at 2:15:46 PM

Speaking of books. Adam Schiff has one talking about the insurrection and the people and events leading up to it. Among the people he talks about are Kevin Mc Carthy and Devin Nunes.

Nunes apparently used to be reasonable, then he realized how much influence he could have with the executive branch by sucking up to Trump and did a 180, culminating in his "midnight run" to the White House with alleged proof showing the Russia investigation was all fake. You know, the one where all the proof was quickly revealed to come from the White House to begin with.

Mccarthy, on the other hand, has always been very open about having no ethics. Schiff relates a conversation they had in 2010 about the upcoming elections and Schiff told Mc Carthy he thought the Democrats would do well. No sooner was Mc Carthy off the plane did he start telling reporters that Schiff admitted to him the D's were going to lose. When Schiff found out about this the next day by reading it in the paper he went and confronted Mc Carthy over his lie. Mc Carthy shrugged him off saying, "Ah, well, you know how the game is played."

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#376404: Oct 16th 2021 at 2:19:03 PM

I am hearing rumours that Nunes might receive a much less Republican district in this year's redistricting cycle, so perhaps you will be rid of him soon.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#376405: Oct 16th 2021 at 9:48:02 PM

Republicans start shit with Buttigieg when the latter takes parental leave. Buttigieg responds that the Biden Administration is pro-family and wonders where the hell the "party of family values" get off challenging him for taking some time to bond with his newborn.

Side fight: Tucker Carlson suggests that Buttigieg is trying to learn to breastfeed. Buttigieg has to remind Carlson that bottles are a thing.

Altris from the Vortex Since: Aug, 2019 Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
#376406: Oct 16th 2021 at 10:49:27 PM

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Senator Tom Cotton, Republican of Arkansas, criticized Mr. Buttigieg's performance as "so bad that Americans didn't even realize he spent the last two months absent on paternity leave," an insult that exaggerated how long the secretary was out of office.

Clearly, Cotton is unaware that raising children - especially young ones and especially twins - constitutes working another job entirely. Frankly, I'm impressed that Buttigieg has managed to get as much done as he has.

So, let's hang an anchor from the sun... also my Tumblr
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#376407: Oct 16th 2021 at 11:02:56 PM

We get it, Tucker, you're a Manchild who's totally insecure in his masculinity. God, conservative pundits are unoriginal

Do not obey in advance.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#376408: Oct 16th 2021 at 11:11:31 PM

I'm fairly certain it's a part of the mindset that "real" men don't actually do this part of parenting. It's both homophobic and misogynistic.

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#376409: Oct 16th 2021 at 11:13:38 PM

[up]That, too.

Do not obey in advance.
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#376410: Oct 16th 2021 at 11:31:28 PM

Toxic Masculinity is a hell of a drug.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#376411: Oct 16th 2021 at 11:33:27 PM

And the GOP is all too happy to be the dealer.

Disgusted, but not surprised
nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#376412: Oct 17th 2021 at 12:18:19 AM

At least one mainstream journalist on Twitter got quite a bit of flack for suggesting that Buttigieg was neglecting his job by taking parental leave.

EDIT: I was bit mistaken here. It actually was a Politico article that began with "PETE BUTTIGIEG has been MIA", they were criticized for it, and a different Politico writer tweeted that people who are "reading negative connotations into the term (including the WH now) are doing so unfairly" and also was criticized for it.

Edited by nova92 on Oct 18th 2021 at 4:36:28 AM

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#376413: Oct 17th 2021 at 12:56:03 AM

I mean, yeah, MIA has negative connotations. That was either rather naive or a poor backtracking.

I don't know what's up with that article. Politico tends to be better than that. Maybe they have a few bad egg writers?

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#376414: Oct 17th 2021 at 6:35:27 AM

They were fervently bought my a highly conservative group/owner, I think

Resileafs I actually wanted to be Resileaf Since: Jan, 2019
I actually wanted to be Resileaf
#376415: Oct 17th 2021 at 7:16:52 AM

Conservatives fundamentally cannot comprehend men actually taking care of their children. They were raised with the idea that men had to be working and providing and to do anything else is deviancy and bad.

And if your children don't grow up right because of that, that's their own damn fault for being weak.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#376416: Oct 17th 2021 at 7:30:51 AM

Pretty much, men "family values" center pretty much in three thing: father children, give them money when they need it and correct them when they are weak, everything else is wife job or the kid doing on their own.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#376417: Oct 17th 2021 at 7:33:08 AM

But they still need a father figure. As Stephen Colbert once said, without a distant and unpleasable authority figure in their lives, how will they come to terms with the existence of God?

It's been fun.
Steven (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#376418: Oct 17th 2021 at 7:38:00 AM

It disgusts me that people think men shouldn't be allowed to take maternity leave to be a father to their newborns. It almost feels like this is partly why you see so many men walk out on their girlfriends/wives when they find out their significant other is pregnant; if you're told by society that taking care of kids is a woman's thing and you are too much of a man to do a woman's job, then you feel like you don't have to stick around for the child, especially if (general) you just want to fuck around with different women for your own sexual wants.

Sorry if this doesn't make too much sense, but I had to get it out.

Remember, these idiots drive, fuck, and vote. Not always in that order.
Antiteilchen In the pursuit of great, we failed to do good. Since: Sep, 2013
In the pursuit of great, we failed to do good.
#376419: Oct 17th 2021 at 7:51:10 AM

Conservatives fundamentally cannot comprehend
You could have stopped right there. There's basically nothing conservatives actually get right. About humans, nature, economics, science, you name it. Their whole worldview are falsities based upon falsities in service of egotism or outright sadism.

Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#376420: Oct 17th 2021 at 7:57:49 AM

[up]"Funny" thing is that conservatives say the exact same thing about progressives.

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#376421: Oct 17th 2021 at 7:58:47 AM

Speaking of conservatives hating women: Oklahoman woman has been sentenced to four years in prison for manslaughter because she was taking meth while pregnant.

A woman has been found guilty of First-Degree Manslaughter at the Comanche County Courthouse.

The jury returned around 6:30 today with the verdict in Brittney Poolaw’s case.

The jury began deliberating around 3:45 p.m.

An autopsy report stated Poolaw’s child died at 17 weeks gestation. Advertisement

The report showed it tested positive for methamphetamine, amphetamine and another drug in the liver and brain.

An OBGYN testified on the stand Tuesday as an expert for the state.

The doctor confirmed the fetus was at the gestational age of about 17 weeks and that methamphetamine use can have an effect on the pregnancy, though he said it may not be the direct cause of death for the fetus.

A nurse and medical examiner both testified to seeing congenital abnormalities on the fetus. Advertisement

Poolaw was sentenced to four years in prison.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#376422: Oct 17th 2021 at 8:15:19 AM

I mean, taking illegal drugs while pregnant is not exactly up there on the list of genius moves made by humanity, although I'm not sure that it should justify a murder charge. Had the fetus survived, I can't see it having a quality life. We can go on and on about cycles of poverty, despair, and drug addiction, but this was never going to have a good outcome.

Edited by Fighteer on Oct 17th 2021 at 11:17:31 AM

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#376423: Oct 17th 2021 at 8:25:23 AM

To be fair, while I’m all for paternity leave, I do wonder if a member of the Cabinet’s responsibilities might ought to take precedence.

Though I don’t think that the Republicans’ critiques have stopped there, of course.

Edited by KarkatTheDalek on Oct 17th 2021 at 11:25:30 AM

Oh God! Natural light!
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#376424: Oct 17th 2021 at 8:25:26 AM

That's completely irrelevant in a discussion about jailing a woman for her fetus's death. This is a side-step away from imprisoning women for miscarriages.

It's been fun.
minseok42 A Self-inflicted Disaster from A Six-Tatami Room (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
A Self-inflicted Disaster
#376425: Oct 17th 2021 at 8:32:56 AM

While it is a bad idea to take meth while pregnant, and the government probably should have intervened had the fetus been born, I don't understand why she should be convicted when the doctor that testified for the state said it might not be the cause of death. (Excluding the uncertainty inherent in science, of course).

And treating that as murder or manslaughter doesn't make sense either. Even if endangering a fetus (excluding medical abortions) has to be punished, treating that as the same as harming someone who is born is quite problematic.

"Enshittification truly is how platforms die"-Cory Doctorow

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