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megarockman from Sixth Borough Since: Apr, 2010
#340376: Nov 20th 2020 at 10:42:30 AM

Each party already has its slate of electors lined up who will vote for their party's ticket should that ticket win the popular vote in that state. Eight statesnote  actually name said electors on the ballot.

Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#340377: Nov 20th 2020 at 10:51:39 AM

I had not realized that the electors in the electoral college were still actual people. I knew that they were in the 1700s and early 1800s, but I thought that by now it was just a way of counting how many EC votes a state got.

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#340378: Nov 20th 2020 at 10:53:44 AM

They’re still actual people, that’s why neither Trump or Hillary got their full votes in 2016, because some of their electors refused to actually vote for them (electors are picked by the state party and are usually senior figures in the state who don’t hold elected office).

So in Georgia, Abrams is an Democrat elector this year, in New York, Hillary is one.

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#340379: Nov 20th 2020 at 12:37:03 PM

A comparison of today's tweets from both Trump and Biden. See if you can guess which is which:

The Governor of Georgia, and Secretary of State, refuse to let us look at signatures which would expose hundreds of thousands of illegal ballots, and give the Republican Party and me, David Perdue, and perhaps Kelly Loeffler, a BIG VICTORY...

And the other guy:

At least 37 transgender and gender-nonconforming people have been killed this year, most of them Black and Brown transgender women. It’s intolerable. This Transgender Day of Remembrance, we honor their lives—and recommit to the work that remains to end this epidemic of violence.

clemont107 Carmine at the Beach from A Vacation in Paldea (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#340380: Nov 20th 2020 at 12:46:54 PM

[up]At the rate MegaloDON is tweeting negatively about fellow Republicans from Georgia, Dems are getting more and more likely to win the Senate.

Edited by clemont107 on Nov 20th 2020 at 3:47:22 PM

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#340381: Nov 20th 2020 at 12:49:18 PM

If we do take both Georgia seats, I'd be very amused if one of them thanks Trump directly for helping turn Georgia blue.

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DeMarquis Since: Feb, 2010
#340383: Nov 20th 2020 at 1:01:14 PM

Trump may be trying to get Michigan's electors overturned and replaced. It's still unlikely, but he seems to be trying.

See also here

Edited by DeMarquis on Nov 20th 2020 at 4:12:29 AM

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#340384: Nov 20th 2020 at 1:10:32 PM

Note that a number of his lawyers, including Giuliani, won't be attending this meeting with the Michigan Republicans due to having to isolate after being exposed to Guiliani's Covid infected son.

Edited by Parable on Nov 20th 2020 at 1:10:44 AM

DeMarquis Since: Feb, 2010
#340385: Nov 20th 2020 at 1:13:21 PM

I wonder if meetings at the WH itself are recorded in some fashion? These guys appear to be on sketchy legal ground.

Edited by DeMarquis on Nov 20th 2020 at 4:16:58 AM

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#340386: Nov 20th 2020 at 1:15:54 PM

I think it's more that the lawyers want deniability about any illegal statements.

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DeMarquis Since: Feb, 2010
#340387: Nov 20th 2020 at 1:17:42 PM

If it's an official meeting at the WH, with staff on attendance and everything, I don't see how they maintain any sort of deniability.

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#340388: Nov 20th 2020 at 1:17:59 PM

[up]x4 Yeah I think it was pointed out yesterday that the Michigan legislature doesn't even have the power to appoint electors without passing a law that lets them specifically do it (instead of awarding them automatically), and Whitmer's not going to sign a law like that into power.

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DeMarquis Since: Feb, 2010
#340389: Nov 20th 2020 at 1:23:06 PM

It's probably political theater, with a dash of placating the President's ego thrown in, but it's still damaging.

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#340390: Nov 20th 2020 at 2:00:19 PM

I'm a bit late on it, but the discussion about the onus being on the oppressed reminded me of a political cartoon in which one man is beating another over the head with a cross, only to play the Wounded Gazelle Gambit when the person being beaten breaks the cross over their knee - pleading for civility after behaving in a wildly uncivil manner.

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#340391: Nov 20th 2020 at 2:00:29 PM

This whole thing of Trump's has been theater from the start, albeit very dangerous theater that undermines democratic norms.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#340392: Nov 20th 2020 at 2:16:15 PM

Merrick Garland Among Biden Candidates For Attorney General, Sources Say
The federal judge and erstwhile Supreme Court nominee — whose case was never taken up by Senate Republicans — could be asked by the new administration to take the reins of the Justice Department

https://www.npr.org/sections/biden-transition-updates/2020/11/20/937043662/merrick-garland-among-biden-candidates-for-attorney-general-sources-say

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#340393: Nov 20th 2020 at 2:32:10 PM

Is that good or bad?

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Imca (Veteran)
#340394: Nov 20th 2020 at 2:33:15 PM

It's a big fuck you to the republician party.

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#340395: Nov 20th 2020 at 2:36:02 PM

Mnuchin claims the US is working on "mass distribution of the virus".

I really, really hope that this was a Freudian slip for vaccine. Because the alternative is just fucked up beyond measure.

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clemont107 Carmine at the Beach from A Vacation in Paldea (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#340396: Nov 20th 2020 at 2:39:20 PM

I hope that if Garland does become the new A.G. he goes full "Bill Barr" and investigates some of the Republicans in Congress for potential corruption. They do not need to be impeached, but if they resign out of uncovered scandals that could help Dems strengthen control over Congress.

[up]Probably just a slip of the tongue. No sane person would say "mass distribution of the virus" earnestly.

Edited by clemont107 on Nov 20th 2020 at 5:40:07 AM

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#340397: Nov 20th 2020 at 2:47:48 PM

It can be technically true since vaccines contain a weakened version of the virus, if I remember correctly.

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PhysicalStamina (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#340398: Nov 20th 2020 at 2:48:14 PM

Wait, was Garland the one who was stonewalled by Republicans during the Obama years?

It's one thing to make a spectacle. It's another to make a difference.
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#340399: Nov 20th 2020 at 2:48:48 PM

[up]He was Obama's Supreme Court pick, yes.

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