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3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#298026: Jan 7th 2020 at 4:12:37 PM

yeah, the only way this isn't going to go hot now is if the US refuses to strike back after that. And I don't see Trump do that.

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archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#298027: Jan 7th 2020 at 4:12:51 PM

[up][up] Not that that’s not a bad sign, but I wouldn’t say Fars is entirely reliable.

Again, missiles launched from inside Iraq, not Iran.

Edited by archonspeaks on Jan 7th 2020 at 4:13:31 AM

They should have sent a poet.
CookingCat Since: Jul, 2018
#298028: Jan 7th 2020 at 4:13:32 PM

I'm really worried he's gonna try to nuke Iran.

3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#298029: Jan 7th 2020 at 4:13:52 PM

Spiegel is also saying the Revolutionary Guards are claiming responsibility.

[up]Now thats very unlikely. The next step of the US would likely be Airstrikes and Cruise Missiles.

Edited by 3of4 on Jan 7th 2020 at 1:16:43 PM

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MrHellboy The Shadow from A world of my own Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#298030: Jan 7th 2020 at 4:14:10 PM

Here's the first official statement from the Pentagon:

https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1214700968102764545

The hardest thing in this world is to live in it.
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Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#298032: Jan 7th 2020 at 4:15:40 PM

> I'm really worried he's gonna try to nuke Iran.

Thankfully that won't happen,Nuclear weapons exist as a deterrent and no one is actually going to use one.

Edited by Ultimatum on Jan 7th 2020 at 12:16:07 PM

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#298033: Jan 7th 2020 at 4:15:42 PM

[up]x7 I called it.

Well, I'm already sending my prayers and condolences to the currently enlisted, their families, and the Iranian Civilians. This next Decade is going to be painful for America (and even more painful for Iran and its neighbors).

Edited by DingoWalley1 on Jan 7th 2020 at 7:18:02 AM

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#298034: Jan 7th 2020 at 4:15:54 PM

Now, especially after Esper and Trump basically told Iraq no even though they voted on an (albeit nonbinding) resolution to kick the US out, curious to see what Baghdad does....

EDIT- Twitter is saying 20 US KIA, but so far no official sources.

Edited by FFShinra on Jan 7th 2020 at 4:17:14 AM

CookingCat Since: Jul, 2018
#298035: Jan 7th 2020 at 4:17:19 PM

And Iran just mockingly tweeted their flag like Trump did with the US one: https://t.co/8L5v8vGVfu

Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#298036: Jan 7th 2020 at 4:34:22 PM

Snowcrash was right. Again.

Real, on-the-ground conflict now includes lame memes and shitposts along with other forms of cyberwarfare.

Yay. Living the dream. -_-'

Edited by Euodiachloris on Jan 7th 2020 at 12:35:14 PM

KZN02 The Master of Tediousness (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
The Master of Tediousness
#298037: Jan 7th 2020 at 4:37:18 PM

On that note, was Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance foreshadowing in any way?

Edited by KZN02 on Jan 7th 2020 at 4:37:38 AM

With a '0', not an 'O'
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#298039: Jan 7th 2020 at 4:40:25 PM

[up]Dude, please. No fearmongering.

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#298040: Jan 7th 2020 at 4:41:17 PM

And of course, Donald Trump has actually warned people he would do this... back in 2011.

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Jan 7th 2020 at 1:43:37 PM

We learn from history that we do not learn from history
coinneach from Mordor Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#298041: Jan 7th 2020 at 4:42:22 PM

"Thankfully that won't happen,Nuclear weapons exist as a deterrent and no one is actually going to use one."

MAD only applies when the button-presser is not, well, mad. With Dolt 45, all bets are off. He deliberately went after Soleimani specifically because that option was the most horrific "don't ever fucking do this" item on the list. He has no concept of his actions having consequences because in his entire life nobody has ever called him out in a meaningful way.

tl;dr: we're fucked.

Let's see what fresh fuckwittery the dolts can contrive to torment themselves with this time.
FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#298042: Jan 7th 2020 at 4:42:53 PM

A base in Erbil was also hit, in addition to al-Asad in Anbar.

Intermittant reporting on twitter that a second barrage is being launched, but no confirmation as yet.

Notably, the 20 casualties thing has disappeared from Twitter.

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#298043: Jan 7th 2020 at 4:43:41 PM

@megaliz: You want to joke about war with Iran, fine. But playing that song was a step too far.

Everyone's already been trying to calm down the doomsayers since last week and then you play that.

Jeezus.

Edited by kkhohoho on Jan 7th 2020 at 6:44:11 AM

FergardStratoavis A Fluff Ringer from Bellveins (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: A gay little love melody
A Fluff Ringer
#298044: Jan 7th 2020 at 4:44:02 PM

Fortunately, there's a bunch of specific procedures that have to be met before a nuclear strike can be issued - and no, Trump waving his hands around in a tantrum won't get that done. The other people in charge understand (I hope) that once MAD is breached, all bets are off.

Edited by FergardStratoavis on Jan 7th 2020 at 1:44:42 PM

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#298045: Jan 7th 2020 at 4:44:13 PM

[up][up] sorry, just where my mind went first.

Edited by megaeliz on Jan 7th 2020 at 7:45:17 AM

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A procrastination in of itself
#298046: Jan 7th 2020 at 4:44:14 PM

[up]X5 Trump can’t order a nuclear first-strike, please stop trying to make people panic.

Edited by Silasw on Jan 7th 2020 at 12:44:34 PM

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
coinneach from Mordor Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#298047: Jan 7th 2020 at 4:47:19 PM

[up]There's a lot of things Trump "can't" do, but does anyway. I'm saying, don't count on any of the traditional guardrails to hold.

Let's see what fresh fuckwittery the dolts can contrive to torment themselves with this time.
FergardStratoavis A Fluff Ringer from Bellveins (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: A gay little love melody
A Fluff Ringer
#298048: Jan 7th 2020 at 4:48:24 PM

Yes, but this is something he can't physically do. He can't just magically press a "shoot nuke" button. That's just not how it works.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#298049: Jan 7th 2020 at 4:50:32 PM

[up][up] Okay I’m just gonna assume you’re trying to induce panic in people for some weird troll reason and move on.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#298050: Jan 7th 2020 at 4:51:13 PM

[up][up] I have to agree. It’s just not physically possible, I think.

Edited by megaeliz on Jan 7th 2020 at 7:53:32 AM


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