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Edited by nombretomado on Sep 26th 2019 at 5:20:57 AM
How can people even primary Trump when the GOP has been cancelling the elections left and right to prevent it?
So it seems like there is yet another Trump controversy, this time apparently about some questionable requests that Trump may have sent to the government of Ukraine.
Part of the whistleblower scandal, right?
Some miracle? That's just ignorant defeatist nonsense.
Hillary Clinton was a historically unpopular candidate who made strategic mistakes, faced Comey's letter, Russian interference, and was the recipient of decades of Republican agitprop and she still barely lost. This idea that the country's "track record" points towards a likely Trump re-election is based off him winning a single election and a complete ignorance of how probability works.
Trump is not invulnerable, nor is he competent. He absolutely can be a one-term President.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Sep 21st 2019 at 1:02:04 AM
Basically all the polls so far show Trump losing to any of the three big dem candidates (Biden, Sanders, Warren). In fact Biden has a double digit lead on him.
Of course Donald winning is still possible but that's only because of things like voter suppression and foreign interference, IMO.
Indeed, those things and the partisan nature of our politics. There is a critical mass of people who will always vote for their party, so winning a nomination is enough to make one have a chance of winning.
The Ukraine story might actually be a good rallying cry for impeachment, because it's easily understanded. Trump withheld aid to Ukraine unless they conjured up a story about Biden's son, which is a crime and pretty shady. Warren came out in favour of it today in Iowa, for example.
I just want to know what their answer was,or if they bothered to reply,i really want to to be "Fuck off"
His son who died of cancer or does he have others?
This is actually really cool, and gives a really good illustration of how state boundries can and do affect the outcomes of presidential elections.
This interactive map creates randomly-generated state boundaries for the United States, and see who would recent presidential elections under the map. Under different combinations of states, different regions become the deciding factor, and even broad popular support can be overturned by the specific state boundaries.
Edited by megaeliz on Sep 21st 2019 at 5:24:57 AM
Beau Biden is the one who died of cancer. Hunter Biden is still alive and the one who that matter concerns.
Edited by TheRoguePenguin on Sep 21st 2019 at 2:19:22 AM
Biden's calling out Trump to prove he didn't try to get Ukraine to interfere in the election by releasing the transcript of the phone call.
Edited by Parable on Sep 21st 2019 at 3:10:58 AM
Maybe they feel that Trump's poor image means they don't have much of a shot of winning anyway so they take a dive with picking him again. Which will backfire majorly if he manages to win 2020
2016 made me question a lot of my assumptions about society.
The Georgia governor election made me also aware it was possible to just outright subvert democracy and no one would do a damn thing about it.
Why would they when a significant chunk of them got what they wanted.
Like for all this talk about cheating democracy most people here seem to ingnore it's just a couple percentage points of nudging, and there are large swaths of the country that share these horrible veiws.
I've long since considered that the biggest problem in the USA is simple voter apathy. The USA would be a very different place if left leaning people voted as regularly as right leaning people.
You're entirely correct.
I understand Mark Sanford has been talking legal action.
Of course, the GOP could take a cue from the UK and just say "fuck the courts, we're voting for Trump without a primary and you can't do a thing about it."
I'm no legal expert so someone smarter feel free to tell me I'm wrong, but I think political parties are technically private organizations so they can choose whatever means they want to select their nominee. Even if it is just by leadership fiat.
Apparently some state GOP have told the RNC to take a hike on cancelling primaries, so lets see how that plays out. Best case, confusion to the enemy.
Warren Beats Biden and Sanders in Latest Des Moines Register Poll
Warren, the U.S. senator from Massachusetts, now holds a 2-percentage-point lead, with 22% of likely Democratic caucusgoers saying she is their first choice for president. It is the first time she has led in the Registerís poll.
Former Vice President Biden, who had led each of the Registerís three previous 2020 cycle polls, follows her at 20%. Sanders, the U.S. senator from Vermont, has fallen to third place with 11%.
No other candidate reaches double digits.
Edited by Sivartis on Sep 21st 2019 at 5:16:10 AM
I hope that lead gets wider. I'm already voting Democrat regardless for this coming election, but it'd make my election day a lot lighter and easier if Warren's name is the one on the ballot.
That's gotta sting for Sanders.
Sounds good to me.
Sanders is my second choice, but I really really want it to be Warren
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