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something something "But both sides are the same!" because you know it's coming
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The difference is that one barrel has some bad apples while the other barrel is full of shit.
Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Dec 14th 2018 at 3:06:37 PM
Welcome to Estalia, gentlemen.
Or, in line with the metaphor: one barrel had a few bad apples while the other has an entirely spoiled bunch.
Edited by sgamer82 on Dec 14th 2018 at 7:28:34 AM
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
Rot spreads, though.
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@3of4: That's actually what the term "Bad Apple" is referring to. If you have a bad apple in a bucket of apples, the other apples will spoil more rapidly than if the bad apple wasn't there.
IIRC the original meaning is akin to Broken Window Theory. Broken Window Theory refers to the notion that if there's a broken window on a building, people will be willing to break more windows on said building. For example, if people see there's already a ton of litter on a street, they'll be much more willing to litter because a single drop can't be blamed for a flood.
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Broken window theory is also a terrible theory of policing where poor neighborhoods are overpoliced on the theory that disproportionate punishment for minor crimes will lead to a more peaceful, clean community. Cause broken windows exist in poor communities because of vandalism and criminality, not because the owners can’t afford to replace them ASAP like in rich neighborhoods. No, clearly poor children are just bad, and cracking down on graffiti and minor marijuana sales will scare them straight.
Versus, y’know, terrifying an already poor community and making everything worse because if the cops are gonna screw you for minor infractions, you may as well do something bigger.
Edited by wisewillow on Dec 14th 2018 at 10:08:34 AM
However, it sells well to electorates to provide "solutions" and "string the criminals up!" is very emotionally satisfying. Sadly.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
That is basically what modern day American Conservatism is about, revenge and feeling good because your hurting people you think "deserve it".
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I thought American conservatism was about "All your problems are your fault, but all my problems are also your fault".
To pity someone is to tell them "I feel bad about being better than you."
I think your mistaking that for American Conservatism five years ago.
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Nah. Modern American Conservativism seems to be an mixture of both, with a hearty dollop of Corporate stranglehold on economics and a seasoning of overtly bigoted policy.
The awful things he says and does are burned into our cultural consciousness like a CRT display left on the same picture too long. -Fighteer
Outgoing Governor of Wisconsin Scott Walker has signed the procedural coup bill into law, gutting the power of the incoming Democratic executive.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/14/politics/scott-walker-wisconsin/index.html
Man, I figured if I wanted to visit a sham democracy run by fanatics who gleefully manipulate the process even after elections, I'd have to go all the way to Iran, Hungary or North Carolina. But now its all right across the border.
Edited by Rationalinsanity on Dec 14th 2018 at 3:01:21 PM
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Not that the New Jersey thing is good, but isn't New Jersey politics (along with Illinois politics) stereotyped as being hilariously, blatantly corrupt?
Not particularly surprised.
Just got tapped for Jury duty for the first time. Anything I should know that was not in the notice or the online booklet?
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Can that be overturned somehow?
Most of the North Carolina stuff was, iirc.
So news of the day...
- Chris Christie has also turned down the Chief of Staff position, which I can't help but laugh at.
- Sandy Hook was closed today due to a bomb threat on the 6th anniversary of the shooting. The threat was later deemed non-credible.
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Well, keep in mind where the burden of proof is- the plaintiff or prosecutor must convince you of their case. Take that very seriously. Try to be conscious of the facts and think about the evidence and context of the case. Do NOT fall for any sexist or racist signaling or stereotypes, especially in criminal cases. And remember to google jury nullification; it’s an important concept which the court is not allowed to tell you about.
Okay, Friendperson, I'm done trying to give you any more chances. Every single damn time we talk about racism in this country, you rush in to tell us it's not so bad.
As if we need Nazis marching through town to see that the situation is stil shit? Please, let us know when the school to prison pipeline no longer exists. When African Americans and Native Americans are no longer disproportionately stopped, assaulted, arrested, and murdered by police. When swastikas aren't spray painted all over a Jewish professor's office. When Hispanic people aren't harassed and attacked for speaking Spanish. When people stop trying to kill Sikhs because they're brown.
Mod note: This last paragraph has been deleted for personal vitriol. Your point was made without this.
Edited by nombretomado on Dec 14th 2018 at 2:46:40 AM
"Somehow the hated have to walk a tightrope, while those who hate do not."
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
Don't mention Jury Nullification to anyone else though because they'll boot you off the case if you do.
Oh really when?
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I wonder if it's illegal to sell T-Shirts explaining Jury Nullification to wear for Jury Selection if you want to get out of it.
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Quickest way out of jury duty from the sounds it,if your desperate that is
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I've always considered Jury Nullification to be a feature, not a bug of our system. Similar to prosecutorial discretion. When I've gone to jury duty, I consider the notice that we are to apply the law as given regardless of if we agree with it to come with the caveat that the goal of the proceedings is Justice over Law. When you put Law before Justice, then everyone suffers.
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
Or if you are just a smartass...
Personally I am...ambivalent about Jury Nullification. Maybe it's because I'm from a Civil Law Country not Common Law, but to me the abuse potential always seems egregious. I can see it's benefits, but I do consider it a two-edged blade
Edited by 3of4 on Dec 14th 2018 at 11:04:34 AM
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Gerrymandering is goddamn evil, no matter which party does it. Glad to see the NJ Democratic Governor is throwing a fit about it.