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pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Relationship Status: Singularity
Cape Malleum Majorem
Oct 10th 2018 at 7:08:48 PM
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CharlesPhipps Author from Ashland, Ky Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
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Oct 10th 2018 at 7:15:26 PM

....

Short short version of unpacking that:

1. Mail Order brides are a sample you should not draw from to judge the whole, are famously a scam, and come from a desire to escape abject poverty in an unstable region even in the stereotype.

2. Melanie was rich before but became super-rich with Trump.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Oct 10th 2018 at 7:14:57 AM

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RedSavant Demon
Demon
Oct 10th 2018 at 7:21:31 PM

Because Russia seems like it has a very patriarchal, male-dominated culture? Because domestic violence in Russia is decriminalized if it doesn't break bones? Because abused women are generally made to pay their abuser's legal fees? Because this was the general Russian reaction to #MeToo?

But you're right, they must just be after those deep American pockets.

Edited by RedSavant on Oct 10th 2018 at 10:23:58 AM

nombretomado MOD the formatting mod Relationship Status: P.S. I love you
the formatting mod
Oct 10th 2018 at 7:23:52 PM

Let's knock that ludicrous nonsense off, yeah?

Fourthspartan56 Technocratic Progressive from Georgia, US Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Technocratic Progressive
Oct 10th 2018 at 7:34:05 PM

Do you have another source? The Daily Mail's quality and political leanings are equivalent to Breitbart and thus really shouldn't be used unless necessary.

Progress is a nice word. But change is its motivator. And change has its enemies. -Robert Kennedy
CharlesPhipps Author from Ashland, Ky Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
CharlesPhipps Author from Ashland, Ky Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
Oct 10th 2018 at 7:45:06 PM

[up] Keep winning? They've been losing a lot of special elections.

Oct 10th 2018 at 7:47:32 PM

Even so, shit like that isn't good.

AzurePaladin The Blue Knight from The Feywild Relationship Status: Mu
The Blue Knight
Oct 10th 2018 at 7:47:54 PM

I hold that M84 has the best signature for situations like these...

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TroperOnAStickV2 Call me Stick from Redneck country Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Call me Stick
Oct 10th 2018 at 7:50:02 PM

... that's my state, I hope he gets electorally slaughtered.

[up] Absolutely.

Edited by TroperOnAStickV2 on Oct 10th 2018 at 10:49:53 AM

Hopefully I'll feel confident to change my avatar off this scumbag soon. Apologies to any scumbags I insulted.
AceofSpades Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Oct 10th 2018 at 8:28:51 PM

That article says they have 26 months to address the issue. Is that a typo or are they running a two year campaign in that state?

M84 Freedom is the right of all sentient beings Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Freedom is the right of all sentient beings
Oct 10th 2018 at 9:55:15 PM

Republicans gonna Republican I guess.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Shaoken Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
Oct 10th 2018 at 11:05:17 PM

Since it's likely that this story has been buried under everything else in the past month, here's a story about how children who have been separated from their parents due to the latter's deportation are being permanently adopted without notifying their parents.

Edited by Shaoken on Oct 11th 2018 at 5:25:59 AM

math792d The justification for everything from Tesladyne, LLC Relationship Status: Charming Titania with a donkey face
The justification for everything
Oct 11th 2018 at 3:49:47 AM

[up] America was a mistake.

The news that they have nothing to fear is guaranteed to strike fear into the hearts of innocents everywhere.
Oct 11th 2018 at 4:29:03 AM

Foot has been extracted from mouth. My main question is, how can we get more perpetrators of sexual assault to face legal consequences/ punishments for their actions? Would we have to change the very nature of our justice system?

3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
Oct 11th 2018 at 4:49:16 AM

I think it's more about changing how it's applied, on the criminal system side. One of the biggest issues is that Victims are too afraid no one will believe them to ever press charges to begin with.

That needs to be changed. It needs to be a certainty that this will be investigated and prosecuted, together with making sure that there is enough funds for it (there've been stories of rape-kits not being processed and literally piling up)

Though I'd also like a clear 'No Means No' passus in the respective laws, to eliminate any textual ambiguities.

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Oct 11th 2018 at 4:51:09 AM

“No means no” isn’t the point, though. And it leaves out drunk people and people who freeze in fear. “Everything but an enthusiastic yes is a no” is better.

Oct 11th 2018 at 4:55:02 AM

How about looking what the Swedes did? They actually tackled the problem (which is part of the source for the "rape capital of Europe" myth) and whatever they did it seems to work.

Oct 11th 2018 at 5:03:23 AM

One of the issues with prosecuting those cases is that they’re typically “he-said she-said” cases, in which it can be very difficult to prove criminal liability. The standards of proof are too high in criminal courts.

Getting police and hospitals to actually perform rape kits and process them would be a good start. Educating men on what not to do would probably also be helpful.

Oct 11th 2018 at 5:25:22 AM

The funny thing is, there are robbery and murder cases where the only evidence is he said she said, and we convict people.

Just something to chew on.

M84 Freedom is the right of all sentient beings Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Freedom is the right of all sentient beings
Oct 11th 2018 at 5:31:00 AM

I remember reading an old Film Critic Hulk blog post that posited an explanation for why rape is such an uncomfortable topic for us. This was from 2013.

WE NEED TO CHANGE HOW WE TALK ABOUT RAPE

It's a long and worthwhile read, but one line sums up the way we handle rape nicely.

WE ARE SIMPLY DOING EVERYTHING WRONG.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Oct 11th 2018 at 5:32:32 AM

[up][up] Those cases are usually taken to civil court, which is a totally different thing and where they can be resolved more easily. It’s very rare for a he-said she-said case to result in a criminal conviction, unless there are outside circumstances that influence the judge or jury one way or another (for example, if the defendant has priors for the same crime)

Edited by archonspeaks on Oct 11th 2018 at 5:31:52 AM

Oct 11th 2018 at 5:35:44 AM

Uhm. I’m in law school? I read a lot of criminal cases. And a lot of robberies and a decent amount of assault and battery and murder cases rely exclusively on witness testimony, with almost no forensic evidence or video footage etc.


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