Just a reminder for the weekend voters: this is going to be the target of a global search-and-replace on the database after the decision is complete. That means the ideal candidate should work as well as possible in sentences where Nakama currently appears. It should:
- be a noun phrase that means "group of people", so sentences like "The X set forth" or "Bob joined the X" still work.
- work as the target of a possessive, so "Joe and his X set forth" still works (this tends to exclude suggestions starting with "The").
- be gender neutral ("Sally and her X"), and work with monsters or fluffy bunnies.
All the current top candidates meet these criteria, so it's not a big deal, but there are some examples hovering in the green that absolutely won't work, like Thicker Than Blood. ("Fluffy Wuffy and her Thicker Than Blood hopped away?")
Friends Like Family has some additional minor issues. The preposition "like" doesn't bind the words very strongly, which can lead to mild confusion. "Eustace joined the Friends Like Family at dawn" may cause someone to wonder what a "family at dawn" is, and how the friends are like one. "The Friends Like Family had sex with each other till dawn" is downright squicky. :)
Speaking words of fandom: let it squee, let it squee.
I thought Nakama would just stay as a redirect?
It will. But redirects are for searching, not for potholing. The potholes should all be the actual name, unless a specific circumstance specifically requires a specific redirect (which is very very rare to see). Normally, the wicks are manually changed, in this case though that would take a very long time so a database replacement is better.
My name is Addy. Please call me that instead of my username.Nakama should definitely be mentioned in the description. Changing the name isn't going to change the multi-thousand outside links, and I can tell you from personal experience that coming to a page different from your intended destination is a disconcerting phenomenon.
Creed of the Happy Pessimist:Always expect the worst. Then, when it happens, it was only what you expected. All else is a happy surprise.It should. Maybe as a note near the end.
The words above are to be read as if they are narrated by Morgan Freeman.Whoa... that was a policy change. Time was, no one had a problem if a redirect title was used on a page as a pothole.
edited 17th Jul '11 4:06:59 AM by Worldmaker
Being in a Japanese-produced work is not enough of a difference to warrant its own trope.
Yeah, redirects have always been an allowable use. In fact we cull and cutlist unused redirects. If it is a valid redirect then Tropers should be free to use it, it's just the name that appears on the page that is important. Apart from anything else if a new name cannot garner enough support to be used as the trope name, then it too is probably a bad name.
edited 17th Jul '11 4:25:34 AM by CrypticMirror
What Cryptic said. I've used Ohana, and Like Family where they were stylistically called for, and plan to use Nakama where appropriate. Redirects are about searchabilty, but also options. Options was the specific reason Nakama had so many redirects in the first place(was anyone really searching for Coterie?)
edited 17th Jul '11 3:53:28 PM by Daremo
Creed of the Happy Pessimist:Always expect the worst. Then, when it happens, it was only what you expected. All else is a happy surprise.
People who play Vampire The Requiem.
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I suspect the only place where Nakama would be considered appropriate is in the article about One Piece, since that's the fandom that misuses it. It's not appropriate for other anime/manga, since the Japanese term doesn't actually mean this, and isn't used in this sense in Japan.
(As an analogy: it's as if some Japanese fans of Barney And Friends had decided to create an article named Friends about kids who admire you and sing along with your songs.)
Speaking words of fandom: let it squee, let it squee.2.12 where I'm looking. Which puts it slightly ahead of FriendsLikeFamily ratio-wise.
edited 17th Jul '11 4:59:14 PM by Bocaj
Forever liveblogging the AvengersFriends Like Family just dropped below a ratio of 2. True Companions is definitely the strongest contender at the moment.
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Yeah, by now, I'm just watching the rest of the list. 'S kind of foregone at this point, I think.
Ponders too much; thinks too little. Currently goes by Knowlessman.
Trust me, as the guy who actually first proposed Friends Beyond Measure so many posts ago, I'm sad to see it take that beating. That said, True Companions is not bad, and I have no problems using it.
EDIT: The one I've been watching most closely is "Jaynes" actually... I figure it was added by someone who doesn't realize that character-named tropes aren't happening anymore... that, and that might be even more obtuse than "Nakama." I'm somewhat disappointed it isn't last.
edited 17th Jul '11 5:53:04 PM by 32_Footsteps
Reminder: Offscreen Villainy does not count towards Complete Monster.
Technically, no. Practically, yes.
There's nothing to stop you from adding a title, but it's almost certainly not going to win at this point.
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Wow, True Companions now has 400 yes votes, and finally has more total votes than Framily (577 vs. 544). I'm guessing that both those numbers are record-setting.
Speaking words of fandom: let it squee, let it squee.