Hmmm, on the one hand, people seem to include C, on the other, to exclude it leaves us with a very neat definition (above the knee).
What about putting C under disputed category? We only need to monitor the examples in the Zettai Ryouiki page, in work pages it's fair game.
The words above are to be read as if they are narrated by Morgan Freeman.No, no they wouldn't. People don't read trope descriptions especially when they've been editing the same trope for a long time and know what the trope is. If you hack off a piece of a trope, most people won't notice and you'll just end up with that piece getting added back in by editors that don't notice the change.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickIt doesn't really do that.
And what about something like this?
"White symbolize extreme innocence while black tend to symbolize a bit more mature mentality with repressed or budding feelings in relationships and tend to lash out"
Bah it just doesn't work well without adding "sexuality" in there.
edited 7th Jul '11 10:30:39 PM by Raso
Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!@shimaspawn: That's what curators are for.
@Raso: Here.
edited 7th Jul '11 10:41:24 PM by EnglishIvy
Also note that there are plenty of B length go-go boots. (ABBA being a particularly prominent example). I think that variation should be added back on.
And truthfully I prefer the more playful tone of the current version. It's a bit of a crazy Serious Business thing so affectionate tongue in cheek seems a good tone to have.
edited 7th Jul '11 10:35:08 PM by Sackett
White can Tsundere though. they are just a bit more of the innocent variety. Nagi from Hayate No Gotoku and Astarotte from Lotte No Omocha are both this as well as being 10 years old. (there are more too)
edited 7th Jul '11 10:36:13 PM by Raso
Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!@ Madrugada That's a great example of this trope and a reason to KEEP those. School girls are a big part of the draw of this trope.
@ Ivy No, that's the opposite of the TRS's job. We fix tropes. We don't break them for no reason.
edited 7th Jul '11 10:36:19 PM by shimaspawn
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickIs it related with Black Bra and Panties?
The words above are to be read as if they are narrated by Morgan Freeman.But is a bone is not and has never been broken , the doctor doesn't just break it for the hell of it. Broken bones always heal weaker. This trope is not broken. It hasn't been broken. It is by all our objective standards, a trope in good working order. Breaking it will make it weaker not stronger.
edited 7th Jul '11 10:45:32 PM by shimaspawn
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickExcept that normal everyday schoolgirls don't fit, if the point of the trope is "Since it is incredibly sensual without revealing the "naughty bits", it symbolizes budding, innocent sexuality, one of The Ingenue who is already aware of her attractiveness but not (yet) cynical enough to put it to use". It's just what they wear, with no subtext at all.
Hey, I don't have to like a trope's origins to know where it comes from. This one comes from school girl fetishes. I find them creepy too.
The debate has in fact, never declared the trope broken. This thread was made to tweak. Not to fix. You want to break it. That's the opposite of what this is for.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickSo then, as far as you're concerned, Muffy Crosswire
◊ is a valid example?
So, all you have is personal opinion and you're going to ignore the good wiks, the great inbounds and the fact that the current definition is being used consistently, i.e. the objective facts. Got it. Personal opinion is impossible to argue with. Facts I find are much sounder and the facts say working no matter what your gut says.
On sheer costuming, she counts. Would I add her, no because I find it creepy to apply fetish tropes to children. But I'm sure I can find a character the same age with socks over their knees that I'd feel just as creepy about adding.
edited 7th Jul '11 11:06:07 PM by shimaspawn
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Crown Description:
Does Grade C Zettai Ryouiki count as an example?

There are only four total variations. That's far less than most tropes on the wiki, especially for a costume trope. Deleting random bits of working tropes on the other hand causes far more confusion and makes tropes much harder to keep track of.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick