Well, we can't just let it lie. And since FE isn't going to change the name anytime soon, we may as well treat Girl Love like "Queer Romance in Japan," which is what Yuri Genre sounds like. A few other people suggested that here.
Though we should probably start a new thread in TRS rather than trying to make the decision here.
Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.Starting the new thread under the title "NOT about the rename" might help. Just a suggestion.
Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.I was going to open a thread on soft splitting the examples between main element (Runs in a Yuri mag or main draw of the series) and Secondary element (Nanoha, Strike Witches, Maria Holic, Queens Blade ect.) like whats going on in the Harem Genre thread (and to match The Other Wiki's splitting)
But if its going to get deleted then nvm...
Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!^ I would say make it clear it's about splitting in the title and not about the rename, and also make it clear in the OP, and you'll probably be fine. I'm pretty sure it's just the issue of it being renamed that's closed.
“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”Okay, I think Fast Eddie is taking his "no non-English in trope titles" way too strictly, cause Pale Haired Strange Kuudere got cut within an hour of its (admittedly) premature launch (ironic, given that Tiny Tyrannical Tsundere is already up and running for weeks with no complaints). At this rate, even Kuudere and Tsundere will get cut.
Thoughts?
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.Seriously?.... just cut out of the blue? WTF.
No. Just... No we should not cut the Dere tropes...... They are very important tropes.
Seriousy the Hateraid for anime is really getting out of hand and stupid.
edited 7th Jul '11 1:33:29 PM by Raso
Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!The "premature launch" was in regards to polishing up the description and example listing only. Eddie explicitly gave "english titles, please" as his sole reason for the cut.
I'd like to make opinion clear: Though Fast Eddie (with Janitor, too) owns the site, he does not own the tropes (and neither do we, BTW) that it collects and describes. Unilaterally using admin fiat to decide what a trope's definition/name should be in the complete absence of a Flame War / Edit War over the matter is overly/unnecessarily draconian. To quote Madrugada
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edited 7th Jul '11 1:48:07 PM by MarqFJA
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I agree too. This "anti-anime" thing is getting too out of hand. We don't want our minor hatedom to start saying that Fast Eddie "hates anime", or we may turn off otaku.
It's a good thing the mirror wiki has a large anime bias though. It acts as a reflection of our policy, and acts as something we don't want to mirror.
I'm just worried is that if Fast Eddie takes it too far, someone will be bugged enough that he'll Start My Own—and succeed. All it takes is some proper funding, a programmer, and knowledge of how to avoid our pitfalls from the get-go. We can't go the way of My Space by having the competition suck our readers away.
edited 7th Jul '11 1:57:06 PM by chihuahua0
Wait, Pale Haired Strange Kuudere got cut? That's a legit trope, though, one we don't have a page for. It might not be anime-only one (although since it's expies of Rei I think it might be), but...even if it's not, that's still not a good reason to cut the page. Retool, maybe, rename okay, but...not cut.
I can understand wanting to make sure tropes that aren't anime-only be anime-centric, but things are definitely going too far these days.
Current project: Cleaning up the Chrono Crusade examples one at a time. God help me.I may be partially to blame for that page getting cut, as it was launched with the same pic as Fountain of Expies and I made an IP thread about it. Now, that being said, were the two pages dissimilar enough to warrant their separate existence?
edited 7th Jul '11 2:01:57 PM by Willbyr
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Actually, I was contemplating that. I'm not going to do so unless I find the necessary resources and, even then, only if this Naz—er, harsh behavior goes any further.
edited 7th Jul '11 2:02:44 PM by Cosman246
If you eat a live frog in the morning, nothing worse will happen to either of you for the rest of the day.Again, the fact that it was cut is my big concern too. I honestly couldn't care if every trope with a name derived from anime was renamed - in fact, I'd probably be cheering - but seeing them cut would be a disaster. I mean, why couldn't this trope have simply been renamed, or retooled if there was something else wrong with it?
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I think so, given that this particular fountain has been referenced many times, without a good infrastructure—and that many of these are not simply expies (as they have complications of their own), but examples of an archetype
edited 7th Jul '11 2:05:27 PM by Cosman246
If you eat a live frog in the morning, nothing worse will happen to either of you for the rest of the day.

Some fans think it should be allowed to be inclusive while other fans think it should be left to Japanese works or those that are obviously inspired by them. As there's no consensus or a hard line separating Japanese works stylistically between their non-Japanese counterparts, right now people have left it alone.
and that's how Equestria was made!