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#276: Oct 16th 2012 at 9:18:20 AM

IIRC, bounty hunters tend to join an inquisitor or rogue trader's retinue (the latter of which is safer, but the opportunity is less likely to arise, I'd say)

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#277: Oct 16th 2012 at 3:58:46 PM

Samus might need to stay away from the Imperium due to her genetic modifications and xeno tech. She could find a haven with a Radical Inquisitor though.

The Space Pirates had better hope the Imperium wipes them out before they try and experiment with Chaos. Look at what Phazon did to them... and make it far worse.

Metroids themselves... probably a threat to planetary force and Guardsmen level troops. I pretty sure Marines, Necrons, Eldar, Tau with heavier weapons, etc could bring them down. And once they discover the whole weakness to cold thing it becomes a turkey shoot. Until they get mutated, or heaven forbid possessed, and in which case its Metroid Prime only worse, sentient and more than one.

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nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#278: Oct 17th 2012 at 6:50:21 AM

[up] I wonder how the X-Parasites and the Ing would fare against the Tyranids.

edited 17th Oct '12 6:50:32 AM by nervmeister

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#279: Oct 17th 2012 at 10:08:23 AM

I wouldn't want to see what happens if the X infect Orks...

I think the Ing would have issues with the Nids; they probably don't have a numerical edge and the Nid Hive Mind (which is immensely intelligent) might make up for the possession going on in a straight fight. It would not take long for the Nids to adapt to Dark Aether.

That's ignoring how immensely screwed the Ing are once the Imperium realizes what they are capable of. The Inquisition would sign the Exterminatus order as a mere formality and probably not even wait for the ink to dry...

edited 17th Oct '12 10:08:50 AM by Rationalinsanity

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#280: Oct 17th 2012 at 3:33:56 PM

Despite the fact that Samus is, by the Imperium's standards, extra-heretical, in terms of power level she's up there with the most badass of space marines. She's destroyed multiple planets on her own and wiped out entire alien races. There's also the times she's killed titan sized foes on foot.

While that won't win her any friends in the Imperium, things like that get you a healthy degree of "respect."

edited 17th Oct '12 10:54:59 PM by Archereon

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TeChameleon Since: Jan, 2001
#281: Oct 22nd 2012 at 7:36:57 PM

Huh. I know that the Federation has been mentioned, but I'm pretty sure that you wouldn't need the whole thing (which is largely useless anyhow, except as window-dressing...). All you really need is Captain James Tiberius Kirk and his crew aboard the USS Enterprise.

Oh, not because of their weaponry and tech, or their adaptability, or their incredible ability to come out on top of the worst situations... no, it's more, well... Maestro, a chord, if you will...

I don't think there's a force in the whole of the 40k universe that can withstand Treknobabble in the sort of doses that the original series dished it out in tongue

edited 22nd Oct '12 7:38:59 PM by TeChameleon

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#282: Oct 22nd 2012 at 9:40:08 PM

[up] The Admech would probably view it as a corrupt form of devotional litany to the Machine-God.

edited 22nd Oct '12 9:40:54 PM by CountDorku

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#283: Nov 24th 2012 at 9:31:22 AM

It depends on context. Anyone who could pick up on the gothic language without use of psychic powers could survive as long as they landed on an Imperium world.

On an imperium world, Bruce Banner would die but if he ended up on a predominantly Ork world he could survive. Sure, they would likely fight each other for a century or so but its big, its green and its stupid, it must be an Ork right? Eventually Hulk would have to pick up on Ork language, or the Orks on his and then it would be good times.

Superman could not survive, too idealistic,unless it one million Superman, who could maybe survive by Raw power but even then, what good is that when the laughing god, C-tan, Gork, Mork, the Chaos four or the enslavers come after him? He would have to get a faction on his side and he's too much of a boyscout for all them. Godzilla, unlikely.

Unless you consider being assimilated into the Tyranid biomass, corrupted by Chaos, converted into a weapon by the dark eldar or suffering an enslaver plague "surviving". Then all bets are off.

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IraTheSquire Since: Apr, 2010
#284: Nov 25th 2012 at 2:56:49 AM

Speaking of the Chaos gods, I cannot help but think that the First Age Exalts will demand a cut, or punch them out and them becoming the new Chaos gods.

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#285: Nov 25th 2012 at 9:36:03 AM

[up][up] What about the Silver Age superman who could destroy planets by burning through them with heat vision and reverse time by flying really, really fast?

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Belisaurius Since: Feb, 2010
#286: Nov 26th 2012 at 8:56:36 AM

I actually worked out the math for EVE online. Considering that Titans are on the same scale as Imperium battleships and are build in a matter of months (remember, the game has been around for only a few years and player run alliances have built multiple titans) and the imperium takes years if not decades to build their best ships then it's entirely possible for the player run corporations to outproduce the Io M and largely overwhelm them with massed star ships.

The Borg are really nothing new. Assimilation? tyranids. Adaptation? Tyranids again. Unstoppableness? Necrons. Numbers? Who doesn't outnumber the borg?

And honestly, Tagon's toughs would absolutely maul just about anybody. With the teraport they can hit and run with impunity. The only way to counter it is by collapsing the microstopic wormholes before the transmission is complete. Unfortunately, nobody in the 40k universe (save the necrons, maybe) actually has wormhole tech. Ergo, they wouldn't know what to look for nor would they know how to interdict a teraport. Standard issue weapons include 'gravy' plasma guns and power armor. Medical technology can regrow entire bodies as long as the brain is reasonably intact. Really, they could raid store houses for supplies with the teraport and be gone before anyone realizes they're in orbit. Then they feed the material into their fabber to make more weapons, ammo, and equipment. Then they make terapedos, deploy a Very Dangerous Array, and 'port in a 13.75 kiloton anti-matter bomb into the engineering section of any enemy they want dead.

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Just for a sense of scale here.

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#287: Nov 26th 2012 at 11:21:15 AM

[up]Would it be profitable to overrun the Imperium though? They have a million worlds and would fight to the end. And if you take them out of the picture you open up a power vacuum that gets filled with something worse.

Any faction from other series that is fighting the Imperium conventionally (no ways to wipe out star clusters or something like that) is going to be at it for centuries.

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KnightofLsama Since: Sep, 2010
#288: Nov 26th 2012 at 2:45:32 PM

[up][up] I think the analysis was for Tagon's Toughs previously were as individual characters (though I personally think Pi would be right at home in the Valhallan 547th given they've already got one insanse demo tech). Give them the Post-Dated-Check-Loan or the Touch-And-Go, then yeah, they're a lot more dangerous. The teraport and its associated tech (including access to Kevyn as its re-inventor) are a huge tactical and strategic advantage. The main problem I could see is in re-fuelling their annie plants. (Attach the Scrapyard of Insufferable Arrogance and then they've probably got the resources to bootstrap up to building the infrastructure)

edited 26th Nov '12 2:49:37 PM by KnightofLsama

TeChameleon Since: Jan, 2001
#289: Nov 29th 2012 at 9:02:52 PM

Nah, the Toughs don't even need the Scrapyard (particularly if they've got original-version Petey, since the Scrapyard is just a piece of a similar ship). Fusion reactors to kick-start the gravy guns, and then gravy whatever's handy (or whatever annoys them) into neutronium, then feed it into the Annie-plant. Or, if they're feeling cruel, moosh part of the enemy ship into neutronium and then let it go 'boom'.

Basically, any teraport-equipped Schlockverse ships larger than, say, cruiser-ish, would be able to maul their way across the 40k 'verse like a wolverine loose in a chickencoop.

IraTheSquire Since: Apr, 2010
#290: Nov 29th 2012 at 9:27:40 PM

From the Exalted thread: Random Sidereal does a Creation-slaying Oblivion Kick. The Chao gods facepalms as everything in the universe dies. tongue

edited 29th Nov '12 9:27:59 PM by IraTheSquire

KnightofLsama Since: Sep, 2010
#291: Nov 29th 2012 at 11:59:20 PM

Basically, any teraport-equipped Schlockverse ships larger than, say, cruiser-ish, would be able to maul their way across the 40k 'verse like a wolverine loose in a chickencoop.

No disagreement on this point. I was thinking long term, strategic planning. Even annie plants need refuelling eventually. So you give them the Scrapyard and park it and Kevyn*

in a nice out of the way system where you can start shoving raw materials into its fabber plants. First thing you build is a VDA and then after that you start building a plant to create neutronium to refuel your ships (lets just use the Touch and Go for an example) while Tagon and co go an cause general mayhem.

Once the plant is complete you then split your time between building consumables, new armaments and ships and increasing your fabber capacity. The next step after that is more or less galactic conquest.

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#292: Nov 30th 2012 at 11:10:38 AM

[up][up] CSOK only affects areas you can see. This works fine in a setting where you can climb an enormous mountain and see all the way to the edge of the world, but becomes a bit less reliable when planets are round.

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#293: Nov 30th 2012 at 11:16:25 AM

So, uh, could it be finagled to count all of the stars in the night sky?

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#294: Nov 30th 2012 at 11:19:08 AM

You can try!

And now I suddenly understand why the space opera Shard was limited to Essence 5.

Speaking of which the Nobilis would be able to gradually but firmly screw over the entire setting. I'm pretty sure the Tyranids are an Actual.

edited 30th Nov '12 11:20:52 AM by CountDorku

IraTheSquire Since: Apr, 2010
#295: Nov 30th 2012 at 3:49:41 PM

[up] So Creation-slaying Oblivion Kick. All the suns turn into ducks. The Chaos gods face palms? tongue

edited 30th Nov '12 3:50:05 PM by IraTheSquire

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#296: Nov 30th 2012 at 3:56:13 PM

Only the suns you can see.

And Tzeentch responds along the lines of "Just as quacked", or in bad Japanese, "keikaku ducki".

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#298: Nov 30th 2012 at 4:38:14 PM

Wait... keikaku means plan, so I assume that the proper bad Japanese would be "ducky doori."

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#299: Nov 30th 2012 at 4:48:59 PM

[up] Quiet you.

God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#300: Nov 30th 2012 at 6:09:57 PM

Duck as planned.

edited 30th Nov '12 6:10:08 PM by God_of_Awesome


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