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neobowman つ ◕_◕ ༽つ HELIX from Unidentified Proxy Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#1: Jun 25th 2011 at 12:21:41 PM

What if Kira existed in our world. You know absolutely nothing about Light Yagami or the deathnote or whatever. You just know that there is a guy out there who is killing criminals around the world with heart attacks.

Would you support him? What do you think about it?

gingerninja666 SCH-NEIGH-ZEL from Aboard The Damocles Since: Aug, 2009
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#2: Jun 25th 2011 at 12:42:03 PM

I'd support him.... initially. I don't hate Kira as a concept, I just hated Light, and the way he only cared about achieving godhood. I'd become wary of Kira the second the Lind L Tailor incident happened, or if really petty criminals started dying, or if anyone who hadn't been convicted of a crime started dying, or if people started worshipping him. If Kira was a sort of force that killed the worst of the worst, the criminals who the law couldn't catch, I'd be cool with him.

problem is... no one would think that way as Kira

edited 25th Jun '11 12:43:28 PM by gingerninja666

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel
Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
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#3: Jun 25th 2011 at 1:08:30 PM

I wouldn't support him no. I probably wouldn't be terribly fond of him either since I am the sort who believes that even murderers and rapists should be treated kindly and helped even while they are paying for their actions. Even the worst of the worst should be treated with love. Harsh love that doesn't let them run scott free, but love nonetheless.

edited 25th Jun '11 1:09:52 PM by Aondeug

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#4: Jun 25th 2011 at 1:33:38 PM

Kira just doesn't jive with me. He's too oppressive, too entrenched in his "my way or the highway" mentality. While I value people with the determination and drive to take matters into their own hands instead of bitching, there's one thing I value more. It's the ability to choose how to live your life, and Kira takes that away from people.

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#5: Jun 25th 2011 at 1:39:23 PM

Nope he's a murder. He may frighten me, but I would not support him.

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gingerninja666 SCH-NEIGH-ZEL from Aboard The Damocles Since: Aug, 2009
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#6: Jun 25th 2011 at 1:40:33 PM

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This. but If he JUST killed the worst of the worst of the worst, I'd be accepting, but the second people start fearing for their own lives, and start becoming paranoid. That's just unacceptable on Kira's part

edited 25th Jun '11 1:40:47 PM by gingerninja666

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel
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#7: Jun 25th 2011 at 1:42:05 PM

Aw man, I thought your post was going to be 'Was one of us?'

What a letdown.

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#8: Jun 25th 2011 at 1:43:25 PM

While I wouldn't support his methods. I would support what he was doing. At first. Eventually I'd grow weary of him, and stop supporting him.

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#9: Jun 25th 2011 at 1:58:46 PM

Everyone's saying they wouldn't support him. From an objective standpoint, this is the most logical decision. Murder is a crime, etc, etc, but what if someone close to you was affected? Say some guy scams your best friend and he's left broke without anything. If Kira kills the person who did that and your best friend is ecstatic, would you say "That person didn't deserve to die"?

Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
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#10: Jun 25th 2011 at 2:00:37 PM

I would hope to God that I would. My liking people shouldn't shake my beliefs that much.

edited 25th Jun '11 2:01:11 PM by Aondeug

If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
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#11: Jun 25th 2011 at 2:04:26 PM

I suppose this is the part where someone posts "Oh, look, it's this thread again"

Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
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#12: Jun 25th 2011 at 2:06:12 PM

I wonder if anyone has been counting the number of times it's been made...

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#13: Jun 25th 2011 at 2:06:58 PM

my favourite uncle was murdered by his girlfriend. I never wished death on her. Not for one second. So no, that wouldn't be enough to change my opinion

You do bring up an interesting point though. I recall that speech Light gave in episode 2:

"Human beings will always keep up appearances in front of each other. That's just how we are, but on the internet, where you can remain anonymous, support for Kira is growing"

Does our behaviour on this forum denonce Light's philosophy? or are we just keeping up appearances here too, while in our hearts we do support Kira?

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Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
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#14: Jun 25th 2011 at 2:07:46 PM

I would think that depends on the individual poster really.

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#15: Jun 25th 2011 at 2:34:35 PM

@Neobowman: Depends really. I'd wish the guy grievous harm and all, but whether or not they'd deserve to die (or any sort of punishment) should be decided by only those personally affected, not by some outside force. (This includes the Police)

IMHO Kira and any sort of Law Enforcement are neither "better" or "worse" than the other, they're both the same. Same kind of good, same kind of evil.

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#16: Jun 25th 2011 at 3:13:15 PM

I'd support him initially, but I would also fear him and be glad if he was ever caught. Giving that kind of power to one man is dangerous, no matter how much good he would accomplish.

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#17: Jun 25th 2011 at 3:35:31 PM

It would take a lot to convince me that this guy could actually cause heart attacks, but assuming I was convinced...I don't think I'd support him.

I guess it is.
shiro_okami Since: Apr, 2010
#18: Jun 25th 2011 at 3:45:15 PM

I would NOT support him. Maybe if he wasn't or never did become corrupt and and self-righteous like Light did I might be able to sympathise, but I doubt that could happen anyway, power corrupts. Maybe if the Death Note was government property, thus making Kira an executioner rather than a murderer, I might be a little less worried.

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#19: Jun 25th 2011 at 3:51:00 PM

I'd.......support him for the most part. But only because he does the job our system is failing to do.

Of course, the problem would be the authorities would hide information of convicted criminals, in those cases, we also need to support hackers and other people good at prying into places to reveal their faces and names...and then compiling them all in a place the Kira could access.

Light started becoming hard to support during the second season where he started killing anybody who remotely has any knowledge of the Death Note(those business men, Wendy, and that other dude)...but till that slippery slope moment, he was still a hero.

edited 25th Jun '11 4:02:10 PM by Signed

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shiro_okami Since: Apr, 2010
#20: Jun 25th 2011 at 4:02:01 PM

[up] Nah, Light crossed the Moral Event Horizon when he killed Lind L. Taylor and anyone who opposed him, and I doubt a magic weaponized notebook could enable a single person to do a better job than a whole "system".

gingerninja666 SCH-NEIGH-ZEL from Aboard The Damocles Since: Aug, 2009
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#21: Jun 25th 2011 at 4:04:07 PM

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so... hard... to resist... arguing... not... resisting... well.

FUCKIT!!

Did Raye Penber and the other hard working agents deserve to die?

Did Naomi deserve to die?

Did L deserve to die?

If they did deserve to die, did they deserve such sould crushing fates as the ones they were given, especially since their only crime was disagreeing with someone?

Did those presenters who protested Anti-Kira views deserve to die?

Do purse snatchers deserve to die?

edited 25th Jun '11 4:05:31 PM by gingerninja666

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel
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#22: Jun 25th 2011 at 4:07:55 PM

I...didn't mind him killing him all that much. Plus, atleast it's revealed he was a criminal on death row afterwards(even if Light didn't know that).

He only killed Lind because he announced he was going to capture him for the horrible crime of finishing off criminals. Same goes for the FBI agents. He's not the best crime fighter for civilized society, but he's still the best we can have in a world like this.

A bit dictator-like, yes, but he's better alive and prosecuting criminals*

than dead, and not finishing the job our system failed to do.

But if there's a Kira that isn't Light, better pray he's as unnaturally intelligent as Light...

PS-isn't it Ray Penbar? Atleast that's what I read in the anime.


Do remember that I said he's less supportable once he crossed the Moral Horizon Event.

Atleast he does a better job than Bat Man, who constantly sends The Joker back to Cardboard Prison fully knowing he would escape to kill again*

edited 25th Jun '11 4:14:06 PM by Signed

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#23: Jun 25th 2011 at 4:11:51 PM

edited 25th Jun '11 4:12:06 PM by Noimporta

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#24: Jun 25th 2011 at 4:13:30 PM

^ My response to ^^ that.

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gingerninja666 SCH-NEIGH-ZEL from Aboard The Damocles Since: Aug, 2009
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#25: Jun 25th 2011 at 4:14:32 PM

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Actually, L would have NEVER caught Light if Light hadn't made any kind of offensive moves. If Light was truly dedicated to killing off criminals, he would have ignored L and his empty threats, and gone right back to being Kira, anonymous, untracable, invincible. L would have narrowed it down to a student, but Light was graduating anyway. Once that lead vanished they'd have had NOTHING. That proved that being a god was ALL Light was interested in, he wanted to be loved and worshipped, nothing more

edited 25th Jun '11 4:15:19 PM by gingerninja666

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel

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