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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#301: Oct 15th 2016 at 1:10:48 AM

[up] Were the other candidates so awful that he was the best choice?

Disgusted, but not surprised
TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#302: Oct 15th 2016 at 1:44:21 AM

@Incognito Ninja

Regarding the drug war:

They're not going directly against the Chinese government but "unfortunate elements" of it (regardless of their connections). Give them the chance to hit back at the Chinese and they'll take it. This is very well known issue in the US.

Nevermind that drug wars have never actually helped anyone.

Si Vis Pacem, Para Perkele
Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#303: Oct 15th 2016 at 2:19:33 AM

@M84

- The voters liked his anti-crime pledge. Davao's an example of what happened in terms of law and order.


The candidates were at best okay with some issues:

Grace Poe - Allegations that she's not a natural-born Filipino. Conspiracies abound that her husband is a CIA agent even though he did technical stuff with the USAF.

Jejomar Binay - Family/Associates accused of corruption in Makati City. Also a personal reason why I was reluctant to throw my support for him since my dad backs him.

Mar Roxas - Said to do some public events for glory hound reasons. Not many people have nice things to say about his wife Korina Sanchez.

edited 16th Oct '16 6:11:57 AM by Ominae

Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#304: Oct 16th 2016 at 2:59:41 AM

Duterte's interviewed by Al-Jazeera. It's on their official You Tube channel.

entropy13 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#305: Oct 16th 2016 at 5:49:05 AM

Yet in terms of crime rates Davao's not really remarkable. Not the highest rate, but not the lowest either.

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#307: Oct 17th 2016 at 6:10:34 AM

Eh?

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
Advarielle Homicidal Editor Since: Aug, 2016
Homicidal Editor
#308: Oct 17th 2016 at 6:23:04 AM

[up][up] Yup, this man loves China more than your average Chinese or someone with Chinese lineage. He really should just become the president of China instead of Philippine. [lol] On a more serious topic, his pandering to China makes me think that he is an Asian version of Lukashenko.

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Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#309: Oct 17th 2016 at 6:26:51 AM

Here's where the man defends his views on the drug wars:

edited 17th Oct '16 6:27:03 AM by Ominae

IncognitoNinja Gravity Beams and BIDIBIDIBIDIBIDI Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Gravity Beams and BIDIBIDIBIDIBIDI
#310: Oct 17th 2016 at 6:22:50 PM

Welp, it just happened:

Bless you Chris for pointing out China's (and to an extent, Duterte's) hypocrisy.

Gonna go take a look if those Dutert***s are spamming the comments...

EDIT: Huh... No sign of those Discount WumaodangDutert***s... Color me surprised.

edited 17th Oct '16 6:58:36 PM by IncognitoNinja

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Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#311: Oct 17th 2016 at 6:42:21 PM

http://qz.com/807203/political-scientist-richard-javad-heydarian-on-rodrigo-duterte-us-bashing-and-the-south-china-sea/

A good non-partisan read on what could happen if Duterte continues on what he does and what could happen if Mar was the president.


http://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2016/10/15/blowback-for-american-sins-philippines/VNAmdveJWntU7f8FYnGvPL/story.html

Related with American-Filipino political relations.

edited 17th Oct '16 6:43:01 PM by Ominae

JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#313: Oct 19th 2016 at 3:58:54 PM

Police van runs over leftists protesting in front of US embassy This will get us kicked out for sure. Almost seems like something Duerte meant to happen, especially since this comes just as he is visiting China. I am guessing the US's approval ratings are a lot lower than 92 percent right now, probably below 50.

Edit: Also the country is due to be hit by a Typhoon. The worse in years. I expect Duerte will keep the US from doing anything and try to get the Chinese fleet to send humanitarian aid as part of a push to get the people to like Beijing more and Washington less.

edited 19th Oct '16 4:08:26 PM by JackOLantern1337

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
tryrar Since: Sep, 2010
#314: Oct 19th 2016 at 4:14:32 PM

[up]Oh for the love of god Jack, would you stop panicking at the slightest thing and going of the hyperbole deep end?

JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#315: Oct 19th 2016 at 7:13:31 PM

Typhoon Lawin crosses Luzon Stay safe everyone.

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#316: Oct 19th 2016 at 7:42:24 PM

http://snafu-solomon.blogspot.sg/2016/10/massive-anti-us-protest-outside-our.html?m=1

Someone's idea on ending Filipino- American ties.

On the record, the MPD didn't order anyone to use a vehicle to disperse the protestors.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#317: Oct 19th 2016 at 8:39:56 PM

I heard that the police vehicle was unmoving but then attacked by protesters, any conformation on that?

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#318: Oct 19th 2016 at 9:30:43 PM

IIRC, the vehicle was swarmed by them from what I've seen in FB.

But there are some vids that show the officer ramming protestors on purpose even though he wasn't attacked by them.

edited 20th Oct '16 9:02:23 AM by Ominae

speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#319: Oct 20th 2016 at 9:35:06 AM

Duterte renounces U.S., declares Philippines will embrace China. A lot of hot air, or something the U.S. should legitimately be concerned about?

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#320: Oct 20th 2016 at 10:11:35 AM

I suppose that depends on whether the Chinese are actually answering his phone calls and giving something other than non-committal answers if they do.

I'm quite tempted to quote Bob Page on all of this...

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
SgtRicko Since: Jul, 2009
#321: Oct 20th 2016 at 4:50:00 PM

[up] I don't recall Bob saying anything relevant to this situation. Care to enlighten?

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#323: Oct 20th 2016 at 5:39:57 PM

[up][up]Well, since they're so insistent on killing drug users and cosying up to folks who don't have any reason to trust them, might as well wait and let the long term consequences catch up to them.

Why contain it? Let it spill over into the schools and churches, let the bodies pile up in the streets. In the end, they'll beg us to save them.

Reuters reckons the US doesn't have that much leverage on Duterte. Well, some US aides pushing for a harder tone is now known outside the Beltway...

edited 20th Oct '16 5:40:26 PM by Krieger22

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#324: Oct 20th 2016 at 6:06:50 PM

Any chance that President Psycho will have to deal with internal (either popular, bureaucratic, or military) opposition to the whole "sell out to China" thing?

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#325: Oct 20th 2016 at 6:58:12 PM

There is. His allies are reminding him not to look like he's selling out the country's sovereignty to China.


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