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XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#3126: Feb 11th 2024 at 2:43:34 PM

[up]x4: Because Coyote v. ACME wouldn't be the first, nor last, film that has this kind of underlying satire and critique. Even within Warner Bros., Ready Player One and The Matrix Resurrections had similar critiques, and the current administration ironically wants to push forward with making the world of RPO a reality.

But that's arguably irrelevant, because we know Zaslav (or any one still within his regime) apparently didn't even watch the film, so one can't even argue he picked up on that. It's in the same weak excuse as "well maybe the film didn't test as well," which was not only debunked, but gives these suits too much credit on quality control.

Edited by XMenMutant22 on Feb 11th 2024 at 5:44:41 AM

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#3128: Feb 11th 2024 at 4:47:29 PM

“Coyote Vs Acme is about a giant corporation choosing stock over empathy, doing nothing ‘illegal’ but morally shady stuff for profit. It’s a David vs Goliath story. It’s about the cynical and casual cruelness of capitalism and corporate greed. No wonder Warner doesn’t want to release Coyote Vs. Acme."

They should take a page from Disney. Disney releases stories about how corporations are evil and corporate over-control is wrong with zero shame whatsoever all the time.

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#3130: Feb 11th 2024 at 4:56:31 PM

[up][up] I know this is a joke, but I feel that way right now. No kidding and high key.

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#3131: Feb 11th 2024 at 7:46:06 PM

Just because Zaslav didn't watch the film, doesn't mean he wouldn't know what the film is about.

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#3132: Feb 11th 2024 at 7:49:17 PM
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#3133: Feb 11th 2024 at 7:51:23 PM

[up]

They all get arrested for physical assault, which honestly would be the final nail in the coffin for the film.

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#3134: Feb 12th 2024 at 6:35:18 AM

[up][up] Can we please not suggest IRL violence? Doing it in a fictional context is okay though.

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#3135: Feb 12th 2024 at 7:05:16 AM

Disney releases stories about how corporations are evil and corporate over-control is wrong with zero shame whatsoever all the time.

At first glance it looks like the Rescue Rangers film does that, but then the message is that Peter Pan is the only one in the wrong for lashing out at the industry that used and dumped him without a second thought. And the protagonists go back to working for that company and that's a good thing. It's never posed that anything about the corporations has to change, if Ugly Sonic is kicked out for... being ugly? what he has to do is to happily trudge along until he finds his own way to fit in with that business. Franchise exploitation is okay as long as it's not made by bootlegs.

Edited by TomWithoutJerry on Feb 12th 2024 at 7:05:30 AM

Please remember that, ultimately, fictional works of entertainment are just that.
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#3136: Feb 12th 2024 at 7:58:33 AM

[up] I am starting TO REALLY dislike that movie now.

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#3137: Feb 12th 2024 at 8:00:46 AM

[up][up]Please don’t ruin this movie for me. Lets focus back on Warner?

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#3138: Feb 12th 2024 at 10:28:15 AM

Since my last post got me in trouble, gonna ask this instead, what if the people behind Coyote vs Acme decide to quit Warner Bros in protest to them writing it off? Would it do any good?

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#3139: Feb 12th 2024 at 10:36:01 AM

I don’t think it would unless a LOT of people went on strike. Not just the animation people.

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Robbery Since: Jul, 2012
#3140: Feb 12th 2024 at 11:32:53 AM

Yeah, I don't see a big corporation putting the kibosh on a project because it lampoons the heartlessness and amorality of big corporations—they've released loads of movies like that. if it's a film they think will make money, then they'll make it. Corporate types generally are more than willing to stick it to themselves so long as it makes them a buck

Aside from that, always gotta remember the difference between the corporation and the creatives using the corporation to get their stuff in front of audiences.

ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#3142: Feb 13th 2024 at 12:30:35 PM

I mean, there's no reason to think anything will happen based on that.

Mc Cormick isn't a politician or anything, she has no authority or power. She's just a private citizen saying "hey, Merrick Garland, do something!"

It's exceedingly unlikely the DOJ will open a serious investigation into WDB anytime soon.

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#3143: Feb 13th 2024 at 2:05:30 PM

She's apparently a former Senator candidate, so maybe she has some connections. 🤷

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Robbery Since: Jul, 2012
#3144: Feb 13th 2024 at 2:18:14 PM

What has Zaslev done that is illegal?

Oh. Tax scam. Okay.

Edited by Robbery on Feb 13th 2024 at 2:19:09 AM

ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#3145: Feb 13th 2024 at 3:38:43 PM

That's not how it works though.

Zaslav hasn't done anything, legally speaking.

I'm not gonna break out a corporate law textbook or anything, but to just give a broader perspective on the situation:

Zaslav is the CEO and President of WBD. He is not the head of Warner Brothers' Pictures (one of eight major subdivisions of WBD), which is the company ultimately responsible for this movie. He is also not a majority shareholder in WBD. He isn't even the highest ranking person in WBD. He's an employee. A very high ranking employee, but an employee none the less. He has a boss, and a whole board of directors who can weigh in on any decision he might make.

Everything that a person might say "Zaslav" does is actually the result of many more people advising him, assissting him, and with the potential to thwart him if they wanted. They don't thwart him because they don't care to.

Unless David Zaslav steals a bunch of money from WBD or something, he as a legal individual is not doing anything remotely legal actionable. He's just a cog in a corporation he doesn't own.

Edited by ArthurEld on Feb 13th 2024 at 3:39:11 AM

SpongeGuy11 Since: Jun, 2018
#3146: Feb 13th 2024 at 3:53:26 PM

[up]So who's fault is it that Coyote vs Acme got written off for taxes if it isn't Zaslav?

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#3147: Feb 13th 2024 at 4:32:35 PM

To be fair, isn't Zaslav the same guy who ran Animal Planet, TLC, and Discovery Kids/The Hub into the ground? Nevertheless his constant pushing for The Flash movie despite the lead actor being a criminal as well as a supposed cult leader.

If anything, this whole situation with Coyote vs ACME (as well as other recent write-offs) feels like the complete opposite of The Flash. It definitely feels like there's something deeper at hand, but I'm not crazy enough to dig that deep into the rabbit hole.

ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#3148: Feb 13th 2024 at 4:37:36 PM

I'm not arguing in favor of Zaslav or anything, I'm just pointing out that he's not some criminal getting away with things in broad daylight.

He's a for-hire exec. If he's making a decision about the Flash or Coyote vs Acme or anything else, other people are making those decisions with him.

He's just the public face, which makes him a convienent scapegoat for the rest of the board, including the chairman.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#3149: Feb 13th 2024 at 4:43:31 PM

Oh yeah, I know that. His whole board are all former Discovery heads though, so it honestly doesn't really change the situation that much though. All of those guys just don't know how to run anything that's either educational OR entertaining, all they have in their sights are reality TV or live services.

Just look at the recent Twister movie, it's be distributed by Universal despite being a WB movie. Which reminds me, surprised Universal hasn't considered buying up Coyote vs ACME yet, they definitely have the money to do it, and they already have a decent relationship with WB on top of that.

Edited by Rinsankajugin on Feb 13th 2024 at 6:46:00 AM

ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#3150: Feb 13th 2024 at 4:56:55 PM

That movie is actually a joint release. Universal and WB both worked on the production, along with two other companies (Amblin and the Kennedy Marshall Company). WB will handle the international distribution, and Universal the North America release.

That's actually a very good example of why people in the industry aren't up in arms calling for repercussions. It's a very tight-knit industry, and the people involved at the top levels understand that their positions could easily be switched (that is, they might be working for a comapny they once saw as their competition at an earlier point).


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