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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#226: Apr 30th 2020 at 3:23:34 PM

LeBron just revealed the new name for what we have been calling Space Jam 2.

Space Jam: A New Legacy

Also, I just realized something. How'd they come up with Space Jam for a name anyway? Did it just sound cool?

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Apr 30th 2020 at 6:27:00 AM

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#227: Apr 30th 2020 at 3:28:34 PM

Sounds like a sci-fi version of those NBA Jam games, which were pretty cartoon-y.

Edited by Blueace on Apr 30th 2020 at 7:31:18 AM

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#228: Apr 30th 2020 at 3:51:38 PM

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#230: May 5th 2020 at 9:12:43 AM

I really liked that. Animation's on point, Eric's already an excellent Bugs, and the jokes land. I was really surprised to see "no liberals" on Yosemite Sam's sign, that's some serious getting crap past the radar if I ever saw it. A lot more violent than I expected too.

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#231: May 5th 2020 at 9:47:50 AM

Well, "murder" is in the name of the ride. Black humor is expected. On another note, I looked in the description, and it mentions Jack Fletcher as the voice director. He was the voice director for the later seasons of Pete Browngardt's other show, Uncle Grandpa.

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Psi001 Since: Oct, 2010
#233: May 5th 2020 at 10:31:23 AM

The ending was rather oddball, definitely seeping in some of Clampett's weirdness this time round.

The animation was pretty consistently on point here, didn't notice any glaring lifeless moments like the trailer had.

Seems a lot like this will be Wabbit/New Looney Tunes but with more authentic production values. Hopefully this revival will last a good while.

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#234: May 5th 2020 at 3:54:50 PM

Hmm, that's a nice toon there.

For some reason the "I am amused" line sounded a little less intense than in the trailer...

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ThriceCharming Since: Nov, 2013
#235: May 5th 2020 at 10:28:52 PM

Dug the hell out of it. "No liberals" made me do a double take (of course Sam is #MAGA). I'm a bigger fan of Tex Avery than Bob Clampett but I can totally groove with this.

Speaking of, doesn't it seem like WB animation is super into Clampett lately? Their logo on direct-to-video animated movies is 100% him.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#236: May 5th 2020 at 10:53:24 PM

Clampett has essentially become the poster for WB's current "we're going back to Looney Tunes' roots!" movement with the property - with Daffy being the epicenter of it. Presumably because they can't give up one habit of over-devotion to a single creator (Jones) without just doing the same exact thing with a different one.

I don't mind it, but... yeah. Other styles and creators from the same periods are still largely getting ignored.

Psi001 Since: Oct, 2010
#237: May 6th 2020 at 3:06:25 AM

I'm not too against the Clampett indulgence just yet because it has yet to overstay its welcome like when they recycled Jones and Freleng's best three or four cartoons for several decades.

Besides that, it feels like they've been at least a bit better moderated about this time, since we're still getting formulas and nods from those directors (Clampett never done a Yosemite Sam cartoon after all). I guess it might just be Clampett's general more offbeat meta-obsessed air works for contemporary humour at this point.

Wonder when we're gonna get a 'Mckimson revival era' though. We need some more big jarred curmudgeon smack wars.tongue

Edited by Psi001 on May 6th 2020 at 11:07:31 AM

ThriceCharming Since: Nov, 2013
#238: May 6th 2020 at 11:29:47 AM

Did Tex Avery ever do a Daffy Duck cartoon?

Here's a question: if you had to explain Looney Tunes directors to someone who's seen the cartoons but doesn't know their history, how would you explain the difference between Avery and Clampett?

I get the impression that Avery has explosions and crashes down to a science. He's the most extreme in terms of what he puts onscreen, but he never makes a move unless he knows exactly how, when, and why it will land. Clampett has a more improvisational, fast-n'-dirty style. He throws a million funny images at you all at once and whatever happens, happens.

Edited by ThriceCharming on May 6th 2020 at 12:33:19 PM

Robbery Since: Jul, 2012
#239: May 6th 2020 at 11:41:05 AM

I'm inclined to be optimistic given what I've seen of the new HBO Looney Tunes shorts. I only hope they don't limit the approach to emulating past styles, and let the new creators develop their own voices with the characters.

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#240: May 6th 2020 at 12:13:37 PM

[up][up] Yeah, Tex Avery was actually the director of the first Daffy Duck cartoon, Porky's Duck Hunt. He also directed Daffy Duck and Egghead and Daffy Duck in Hollywood.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#241: May 6th 2020 at 12:15:20 PM

Here's a question: if you had to explain Looney Tunes directors to someone who's seen the cartoons but doesn't know their history, how would you explain the difference between Avery and Clampett?

Hmm...

There's a similar wildness to them, but Avery's style was more visual: sight gags, over the top reactions, and pushing the use of visual space to exaggerate extreme situations. Clampett was more about quirky and off-kilter characters colliding against each other - not to say his cartoons weren't visual, though.

Edited by KnownUnknown on May 6th 2020 at 2:13:41 AM

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#242: May 6th 2020 at 4:53:38 PM

Clampett also was a little bit more about Getting Crap Past the Radar, while with Avery, I don't think that was ever a priority with him.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#243: May 6th 2020 at 7:27:36 PM

Well... Avery did create Red Hot Riding Hood. A lot of Tracy bad guys were pretty lecherous, too.

ThriceCharming Since: Nov, 2013
#244: May 8th 2020 at 9:57:35 PM

Agreed re: Avery and getting crap past the radar. Not Looney Tunes, but Slick Wolf is one of the horniest cartoon characters ever created. I love that guy. It's too bad his shtick would never play today.

Robbery Since: Jul, 2012
#245: May 9th 2020 at 1:33:02 PM

It would depend on when in the director's career you're talking about, too, as they all evolved quite a bit. Tex Avery didn't really develop his signature style until he was working for MGM, and the Chuck Jones who directed "Hair-Raising Hare" is significantly different from the one who directed "What's Opera, Doc?"

I think the main difference between Disney and WB was that at Disney, Walt was essentially in control of everything. This is not to say individual directors weren't allowed to bring their own voices to their cartoons, just that everything eventually, for good or ill, got filtered through Walt. At WB, the directors were allowed to have mostly full control of their own units, which allowed for a lot more diversity of approach and style.

Now for the harder part: figure out what made MGM, Walter Lantz, Fleischer, and Terrytoons significantly different...

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#246: May 9th 2020 at 1:44:35 PM

MGM had way more money to throw at their cartoons than Walter Lantz, Fleicher, and Paul Terry did for starters.

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#247: May 9th 2020 at 2:32:05 PM

I always forget Paul Terry even exists. They say he was a businessman first and an artist second.

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#248: May 9th 2020 at 11:33:38 PM

[up] Of all of them, Terry Toons and Fleischer Bros (outside of of their Popeye cartoons) have probably been seen the least by the general public. A lot of the Fleischer's stuff is public domain, and shows up on those big cartoon collections, but most folks probably couldn't name a Terrytoon outside of Mighty Mouse and (maybe) Heckle and Jeckle (which isn't terribly surprising; most of 'em weren't that good).

Edited by Robbery on May 9th 2020 at 11:34:25 AM

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#249: May 12th 2020 at 7:32:02 AM

Here's another Looney Tunes short, Wet Cement. This one is less than 3 minutes long.

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#250: May 12th 2020 at 8:51:17 AM

I liked that even more than Pest Coaster, though that might be my bias towards Daffy and Porky speaking. The lack of dialogue and light slapstick reminded me of Shaun the Sheep.

Anyone else bothered by these uploads removing the credits and shoving them in the description though? I feel these guys need to be credited properly for their wonderful work.

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