Wikipedia thinks it's a genre
. Mad Girls Love Song seems to be the top contender though. I'm not surprised Sylvia Plath is more popular.
edited 28th Jun '11 3:54:52 PM by shimaspawn
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickWikipedia is using it as a redirect to Yuri. That means, at minimum, one wikipedia editor thinks Girls' Love means yuri. Not very compelling evidence.
edited 28th Jun '11 4:05:47 PM by FastEddie
Goal: Clear, Concise and WittyIt means one wikipedia editor thinks it means Yuri, and none of the thousands of other wikipedia editors disagreed. This is the same wikipedia where there's vicious edit wars
fought over the origins of hummus or the nationality of The Spy.
Looking at the revision history, "Girl's love" has been a redirect since 2009
, and "Girls Love" has been a redirect since 2008
.
edited 28th Jun '11 4:17:42 PM by MetaFour
I am a little confused, I think we are on two different pages here.
Your saying that yuri does not mean Girls' Love?
Top google search results
- www.eliteyurilovers.com/
- yurimanga.net/
- www.shoujoai.com/forum/board_show.pl?bid=12
Top video results Safe for work
[1]
(very funny)
[2]
music video featuring various series in question.
edited 28th Jun '11 4:21:20 PM by Raso
Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!I'm saying that the usage that shows up on Google does not seem to indicate that calling the genre Girls' Love is all that prevalent.
If someone just wants a definition if the word yuri, they are likely ending up on wikipedia, anyway. The title of our page should indicate what it is.
Here's a compromise: Yuri Genre for the page title. Text of the article to use the absolute minimum amount of fannish jargon to describe what we are talking about.
Goal: Clear, Concise and WittyHere's an idea that nobody's going to like. How about, instead of adding "genre" to the end of every genre that could possibly be mistaken for not being a genre by someone who can't read the damn article before linking to something, we make a genre namespace and stick all the articles there? We are making new namespaces for everything else and since genres are apparently not tropes, we need them to go somewhere else anyway.
Regulated fun - the best kind! I don't make the rules, just enforce them with an iron fist.![]()
Eddie, you can't search "Girls' Love" on google and get meaningful results because its a term reliant on punctuation to make sense, and people are bad about including the proper apostrophe, and Google won't search that anyway.
So you get tons of false positives in the mode of "What do Girls Love", "Girls Love <blank>" etc etc.
And, like Raso said, most English Language fans call it "Yuri" or "Shoujo Ai", though no one objects to "Girls' Love".
But for a variety of reasons, we can't use those two, far more common off this site titles as our main article title.
Let's just take Yuri Genre, Use C Bannana's writeup, Divide it up main element series secondary element series like The Other Wiki. Clean up wicks. Make an example less page for Yuri to describe the term, related tropes, and disambig it's use in the various mediums, and give the boss man a thank you BJ and call it a day?
really that's all that needs to be done IMO.
edited 28th Jun '11 5:43:02 PM by Raso
Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!The page right now describes the Genre so that's what we should use.
The Other Wiki divides series up as
- Primary element and marketed as such or ran in a Yuri manga
- Sub-Genre where it's not the main focus of the show but it's a major part IE Nanoha
Example less disambig page for the term Yuri describing the terms usage in fanfiction, and japanese works as well as linking related tropes in case it was linked by mistake when they ment something else. Like Baka or Warm And Fuzzy Feeling.
Wick cleanup : well par for the course there.
and the BJ? Thanks for not banning the lot of us for arguing and getting heated I guess
edited 28th Jun '11 6:01:17 PM by Raso
Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!Once again, making the title a mystery that requires the article to be read before it is understood is a bad play. If the meaning is not plain, we are not helping people offsite by providing a good term for them to use in a sentence when explaining things elsewhere.
Clarity. Brevity. Wit.
Goal: Clear, Concise and WittyI thought you just said we could use Yuri Genre in your last post?
Yuri, Shoujo-ai (incorrect fanspeak) and Girls' Love (less usage) are the only names for this there isn't anything else to call it unless you want literal translation of Yuri which would be lily.
My point on the disambig is that a fan fic might use Yuri to mean Fem Slash, an anime fan might be talking about the genre or they might be talking about the relationship.
edited 28th Jun '11 6:28:50 PM by Raso
Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!I did say Yuri Genre would work. Adding the wrod Genre takes away the mystery, amking it clrear the article is about a genre.
As I said earlier, 2400 inbounds is chump change.
edited 28th Jun '11 6:43:19 PM by FastEddie
Goal: Clear, Concise and WittyI like Kill's idea about the genre namespace.
But I'm also confused as to how over two thousand inbounds is "chump change." I've been hearing elsewhere that two hundred is very good.
Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.For a Genre like this its really good. Iirc Boys' Love had like 500 or something and Queer Romance had like 10.
Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!Yeah, Boys' Love is in the same ballpark in terms of wicks, but is at less than a quarter of the inbounds.
Genre pages get tons of inbounds? I just looked at a few on the index and none had over 500. I would expect to find people visiting works pages first then visiting the genre index for more examples like that.
Not possible to see intrawiki inbounds is it? Or Search Engine inbounds?
edited 28th Jun '11 7:13:40 PM by Raso
Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!

They call it Yuri or Shoujo-ai, which means lily and Girls' Love respectively.
We are one of the rare groups who don't use Yuri as a main title for it and go for the English meaning.
edited 28th Jun '11 3:57:37 PM by Raso
Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!