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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#19601: Feb 14th 2023 at 10:20:20 PM

It doesn't include enemies exclusive to any game besides 3D World for the obvious reason.

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#19602: Feb 14th 2023 at 10:48:15 PM

I would have loved to see Bramballs (from Wii and U).

Though for a new SMM, I'd prefer to have Ninjis, Fire Chomps and Charging Chucks added first, for the sake of priority.

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#19603: Feb 15th 2023 at 2:21:12 PM

Yoshi's Island is so far-removed from the other mainline 2D Mario games (and had the subtitle "Super Mario World 2" slapped onto it out of fear it wouldn't sell without that branding) that I don't think it really would fit in an updated All-Stars game. Besides that, I entirely agree.

No I feel yoshi's is the closest spinoff to being within the mario franchise. Major mario enemies are plentiful, mario himself is in it as a major gameplay mechanic. I'd consider it a mainline... but I'd also consider it part of the yoshi series.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#19604: Feb 15th 2023 at 2:27:34 PM

Major Mario enemies...

Koopas, Goombas, and Lakitu are the only ones there.

Chain Chomp can't be considered major since it was only in one other game at that point.

Same for Shy-Guy.

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#19605: Feb 15th 2023 at 2:31:20 PM

[up]Piranhas plants, boos, bullet bills, cheep cheeps... Not to mention yoshi characters feature prominently in future Mario universe titles far moreso than Donkey Kong enemies and Wario enemies. I just think you're wrong.

Edited by jjjj2 on Feb 15th 2023 at 5:39:45 AM

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#19606: Feb 15th 2023 at 2:34:16 PM

Between Donkey Kong, Wario, and Yoshi, Yoshi's definitely the child franchise that stuck closest to its parent.

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#19607: Feb 15th 2023 at 2:46:00 PM

[up][up]Yes.

I'm not sure what the 2nd part has to do with what I said though, Yoshi characters?

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#19608: Feb 15th 2023 at 2:57:37 PM

[up] x5

I mean gameplay-wise. When put next to the other 2D Mario games, it has Mario elements and has stuck closer to its roots than other spin-offs originating from the Mario series, but not enough that I would bunch it in with other 2D entries of its era like SMW, SML 1/2, etc. It's a Yoshi game first and foremost imo.

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#19609: Feb 15th 2023 at 3:03:24 PM

I realized my statement might require some editing since yoshi exclusive enemies don't feature that often, but yoshi characters do, and I won't dispute gameplay differences, but thinking about it 3d collectathons are different from typical 2d mario but they're considered mainline anyway. There was a whole youtube video about it, which I've posted before. Google how many mainline mario games are there, it should be in the first few results.

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#19610: Feb 17th 2023 at 12:55:40 AM

Just watched this video and I definitely agree.

Yes it’d be unlikely but let’s be honest, having deep cuts wouldn’t alienate casual audiences. They’d just see it as a new face to play as. Plus I doubt there’d be a stink over Mona and Fawful getting in over Baby Rosalina and Pink Gold Peach.

Also a Nintendo Kart wouldn’t have Waluigi would it?

Other than that there’s not much to say on this topic but it would be funny if we got a Nintendo Kart… and it was a mobile spin-off

Edited by MisterZygarde64 on Feb 16th 2023 at 11:15:58 PM

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#19611: Feb 17th 2023 at 1:43:51 AM

Nah. Fuck Mario purism. No reason it should be the only Nintendo franchise allowed to have kart racers. And the roster argument is also bullshit... this isn't Smash, where every character needs a full, carefully balanced moveset. The roster could triple with minimal effort. Nintendo is just lazy.

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#19612: Feb 17th 2023 at 1:47:47 AM

[up]Not lazy so much as clueless. No one asked for Baby Daisy or Pink Gold Peach. And Cat Mario could easily have been a palette like how Yoshi does it.

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#19613: Feb 17th 2023 at 2:07:38 AM

I'm quite happy with it just being Mario Kart.

That being said, Captain Falcon should at least be playable as a guest like Link. Give him a place to stay while he's homeless and destitute, you know?

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#19614: Feb 17th 2023 at 2:44:20 AM

specially since there are f zero tracks in mario kart 8

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#19615: Feb 17th 2023 at 10:20:34 AM

I much prefer Mario characters over Mario swaps or generic enemies.

Petey Piranha? Sure. Just a Piranha Plant? No. No thank you.

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#19616: Feb 17th 2023 at 10:26:36 AM

Koopalings also should've been a pallet option like Yoshi or Shy Guy rather then separate characters.

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#19617: Feb 17th 2023 at 10:38:11 AM

Would be cool to have Kooper and Koops be skins for Koopa while Lakilester is a skin for Lakitu

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#19618: Feb 17th 2023 at 10:50:12 AM

The problem with Koopalings is wondering if they will ever separate them (as in maybe 4 of the 7 are used in a game) or are they forever a package deal where it's all 7 or none of them.

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#19619: Feb 17th 2023 at 11:30:50 AM

I'd rather play as an enemy than just wait for there to be a "King Mook" version...

Like Goomba, Goombrat, Galoomba, etc.

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Nintendo stuck to their guns and are all the better for it, no matter how shortsighted it is.

Edited by randomness4 on Feb 17th 2023 at 2:31:43 PM

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#19620: Feb 17th 2023 at 11:40:54 AM

[up][up] I think the 2016 Olympics games only had some of the Koopslings playable, though none of them are treated as main playable characters.

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#19621: Feb 20th 2023 at 7:35:49 PM

I've posted in the VG accomplishments thread already, but 24 hours ago I finished Super Mario Land 2!

And wow, the last level is surprisingly difficult. And the lack of checkpoints made me feel really tempted to use the rewind feature, but ultimately I prevailed without needing to do that.

The credits theme, for some reason, almost made me cry. Especially when The End was shown with both Mario and Wario being shown to thank me for playing the game.

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#19622: Feb 20th 2023 at 7:45:49 PM

Wario's ground-pounds stunning you even if you're in the air threw me off.

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#19623: Feb 20th 2023 at 7:53:53 PM

Recently been addicted to Mario Party and Mario Party 2. On the note of the former... a-are the control stick minigames meant to be beaten by mortal hands? Like, even against the easy CPUs, I can't beat Tug-o-War. I think I broke my Pro Controller trying, cause it's drifting now, and like hell am I even going to attempt doing those minigames with my Joy-Cons.

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#19624: Feb 20th 2023 at 7:56:07 PM

I know there was some minigame in the N64 games where the CPU mashed faster than the N64 was capable of registering or something crazy like that, but I don't remember the specifics.

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RacattackForce (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#19625: Feb 20th 2023 at 7:58:28 PM

Is it Crane Game? Because I can't out-mash the Easy CPU on Crane Game in Mario Party 1. And it makes me feel inadequate. MP1 CPUs cheat, dammit.

Edited by RacattackForce on Feb 20th 2023 at 11:03:50 AM


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