General Mario Thread

I kinda like the "blended canon" idea that the bros. were born in the Mario world, with Yoshi's Island and all, then interdimensionally spirited away to Brooklyn to hide them from the evil turtle monsters now after them, and then they came back sometime later to be their heroic selves. That will obviously never be confirmed anywhere, but it does answer the gaping question of where exactly they were during that entire period between babies and adults. Aside from fighting aliens or kart-racing, that is.

so I just 100% double dash yesterday, Now on to mk wii

The All Cup Tour was great

I played that game for so long without ever knowing there was a Special Cup. Kinda blew my mind when I found out.

Yeah, wish they'd bring dino dino jungle back. Also, What's the deal with peach beach? I mean, it looks like isle delfino, but it's owned by peach. Did peach declare war on isle delfino, overthrow the corrupt judicial system, and make the entire island a race track?

I mean, there were probably some diplomatic issues over them immediately arresting a national hero and making him an indentured servant through a sham trial, so I wouldn't be surprised.

would explain the lack of piantas in the paper mario games tho.....

It wouldn't explain the presence of Piantas in Thousand Year Door though, unless Rogueport is/was explicitly stated to be outside of the Mushroom Kingdom.

Edited by CybranGeneralSturm on Feb 1st 2019 at 5:24:34 AM

Did the "The bros are from Brooklyn" concept originate in the games or the cartloon before being made Ret-Canon (and subsequently retconned)? I could never find a manual or any such thing that mentions it.

I'm talking ss/cs. but rogueport has a bunch of species, it wouldn't be that out of the question they migrated there.

Fair enough. It's also kinda funny because the Piantas in Rogueport are part of a criminal syndicate whose style depends on if you play the Japanese version or an overseas release (Yakuza for Japan, Mafia for everywhere else).

Edited by CybranGeneralSturm on Feb 1st 2019 at 5:39:15 AM

I’m not sure if it’s outright stated, but I did always see Rogueport as being outside of the Mushroom Kingdom, just based on how few people there actually seem to know who Mario is.

That's a decent point.

And now for something that Nintendo and especially Shigeru Miyamoto would likely not approve of: a Paper Mario game known as 'Paper Mario: Paranormal Papyrus'. The plot: King Boo has stolen the titular Paranormal Papyrus from a tomb on Printing Press Island and uses its power to turn every single Toad in Peach's Castle into Boos and Mario has to not only stop him, but also rescue Princess Peach and return her to normal as King Boo also turned her into a Boo. When Mario arrives at Printing Press Island, he swiftly learns that all of the Toads on the island were turned into Boos as well.

As a bonus, Bowser is only mentioned in the manual as it turns out that his actions during Sticker Star and Color Splash distracted everyone from King Boo's plot.

Edited by CybranGeneralSturm on Feb 1st 2019 at 7:01:46 AM

nah, the next paper mario game will be called

"peach puts the piantas in the gulag"

No, that would probably be a minigame in a Mario Party title. Paranormal Papyrus at least has some sort of relevance to paper as papyrus was used before paper as it is today was created.

Edited by CybranGeneralSturm on Feb 1st 2019 at 7:04:17 AM

@Cybran: I wanted to make a joke about ugly fonts, but I couldn't think of one.

Well, going from the first Paper Mario, where everyone seems to recognize him, to TTYD, where he needs to use a stage name in the Glitz Pit because Mario doesn’t sound “cool enough,” it’s jarring enough to really stand out. No one really seems to know who Luigi, Peach, or Bowser are either outside of how they affect they plot (or have books written about them).

That sounds like an awesome idea though, given how much I love boos in general. Would that mean King Boo is technically killing everyone afflicted?

The Brothers being from Brooklyn was never mentioned in any game or game manual. It WAS mentioned over and over again in the cartoons, books, comics, etc. all of which were made in America for the English speaking audience. Then all the cartoons and comics and stuff kind of stopped before Yoshi's Island came out, which showed the stork delivering the Bros. to a mushroom house. Sonic had a similar thing where the American branch created backstory for him, like naming the planet Mobius, but then later on the Japanese branch reconned it. Although in that case the American and English branches were specifically told to create a backstory that would appeal to those regions, whereas in Mario I think they just made up some kind of backstory because there wasn't any.

The Japanese didn't retcon anything, they just decided to stop...for Sonic Adventure.

B4

On the Brooklyn topic, Miyamoto claimed Mario Bros. takes place there in an interview and the Super Mario 64 Players Guide claimed they were from there, plus Charles Martinet’s directions when he auditioned were “you’re an Italian plumber from Brooklyn.” But then again, these were not delivered in the context of any of the games and it seems like the American branch made it up to fill it in, given how the games never reference this, which makes me hold little stock in the idea and assume the Mario Brothers are Italian simply because it would be odd if they no longer were even if it makes no sense.

I forgot about about Super Mario Bros.: The Great Mission to Rescue Princess Peach! an anime movie from 1986 where the Mushroom Kingdom is apparently a video game that Mario was playing. Peach comes out of the TV, asks Mario for help, then gets dragged back into the TV by Bowser. The next day Mario and Luigi are recruited by a dog to rescue her. Although as far as I know Mario and Luigi just walked to the Mushroom Kingdom, so I'm not sure what the rules were in that thing.

that's how it works in mario+rabbids so that's plausible.

The only reason I know about the Mario anime movies, is because Bowser has a Cross-Dressing Voice in those.

If Charles Martinet is supposed to sound like an “Italian plumber from Brooklyn", then why does he just sound Italian? People raised in Brooklyn usually don't have such thick Italian accents.

They could just drop the Brooklyn/New Donk angle since it's dated 1980s NOA stuff, except Pauline lives in New Donk City. So, the best we have is that the twins are from the Mushroom Kingdom, fill in the blank here, Mario worked in NDC for a while, Donkey Kong happened, and Mario went back to the Mushroom Kingdom sometime later. Why was he in New Donk? 'Dunno.

Because that's the voice he ended up doing, he would've sounded like either hotel Mario or the cartoon if he wasn't nervous.

He said he was nervous.