"Loli" is as far as I am aware generally defined by what the character looks like. Hence the potential for characters who are Really 700 Years Old to be loli.
So, mostly an aesthetic?
If so, what are the most important key aspects of the aesthetic?
- Height?
- Chest size?
- Hip size?
- Body hair amount?
- Skull size?
- Skull shape?
- Eye size?
edited 11th Jun '11 7:15:11 PM by Ukonkivi
Genkidama for Japan, even if you don't have money, you can help![1]The skull size/shape work since anime doesn't put too much attention to age difference when it comes to skull shape/sizes...
Eyes...not too sure as well.
edited 11th Jun '11 7:20:53 PM by Signed
"Every opinion that isn't mine is subjected to Your Mileage May Vary."As I am NOT a lolicon, I can't give you specific... uhm... parameters. Lack of bust is important. So is lack of height. Basically, anyone that looks like they haven't begun puberty. If you feel like a pedophile looking at them, they're a loli.
the pronoun system in Cherokee is just better. Need Scion GM.Like I said in the other thread, there are three main physical features that usually describe a pre-pubescent body
- Flat chest
- Lack of a figure
- Torso length
There is some interplay between them, and you can't just go and call every flatchested girl a "loli", there are plenty of characters who have essentially no breasts, but are still clearly teenage or above. Black Rock Shooter is a good example of this, off the top of my head.
edited 11th Jun '11 7:29:04 PM by SakurazakiSetsuna
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What about Taneshima from Working? She's been noted as looking like an elementary student, while being 17 and having a ample bust.
edited 11th Jun '11 7:30:08 PM by Thenamelesssamurai
Imagine Rakan applying Calling Your Attacks to doing paperwork.~Anarchy Rakan for the hell of it COMMISSION THIS BRIDGE!~EHKThis would be a good thing to find examples of and verify.
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I've often wondered about that... She was never called a loli though. When Takanashi first met her, she had a heavy winter coat on, so he couldn't tell she had a bust. As for the little girl who wanted to be a waitress... she's naive?
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If you can't identify a pre-pubescent, then I think we need to start with defining other things before we get to strange sexual fetishes like Loli.
edited 11th Jun '11 7:34:24 PM by cancerlad
the pronoun system in Cherokee is just better. Need Scion GM.Of course, having a "pre-pubescent body" does not appear to be required. So I am not saying that flat chest is not equated with loli. Only that it is not particularly prepubescent.
Genkidama for Japan, even if you don't have money, you can help![1]What does "lack of figure" mean?
Genkidama for Japan, even if you don't have money, you can help![1]Small not no Bust-Waist-Hip ratio.
Basically, lacking a "female" figure.
This is probably the number one feature, honestly. Though its possible for a skinny teenager to lack much of a figure, but they'll be significantly taller, with longer legs.
This is why you have to look at a character as a whole, and see how they compare to the rest of the cast.
I was really snarky in my last post. I meant no offense.
the pronoun system in Cherokee is just better. Need Scion GM.So apparently, androgyny plays a large part in the loli aesthetic.
I'm sorry if I am offending users here. I merely wish to somehow turn understanding into something exact. As close to a science as such a thing can be.
edited 11th Jun '11 7:47:52 PM by Ukonkivi
Genkidama for Japan, even if you don't have money, you can help![1]Well then, it is a bit misleading to portray a lack of curvaceousness as particularly important to it.
As a lack of curvaceousness is not particularly prepubescent at all. Not flat chests, or unwide hips, or ect.
edited 11th Jun '11 7:55:23 PM by Ukonkivi
Genkidama for Japan, even if you don't have money, you can help![1]I really think it depends on the artist. For example you'd probably call the characters of Lucky Star loli if they were in a more serious-looking anime. The Lucky Star manga shows this in an interesting way by depicting the main characters in more normal ways at the start of every chapter. (Or was it only every volume? I forget. :/)
Except Miwiki-san.
As has been stated, factors like character design come into play as well. For example, in Oniichan No Koto Nanka Zenzen Suki Janain Dakara Ne, due to the unconventional designs used, I'm not sure whether Nao can be classified as a loli.
Imoutos are the best! Follow at your own risk. Tumblr.So, one poster has said that Black Rock Shooter is not a loli.
Do you agree with this? And why or why not?
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The age old discussion of 'what' exactly qualifies as a loli. Due to where the direction the other is going, I wanted to make this thread to get a better idea.
We can never have enough controversial loli threads anyway, can we?
There seems to be more than one definition.
Tell me, do all of these definitions seem relevant to you? What seems relevant, and why?
edited 11th Jun '11 7:09:39 PM by Ukonkivi
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