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warrior93 warrior93 from North Carolina Since: Feb, 2011
warrior93
#26: Jun 22nd 2011 at 12:02:06 PM

For most part Magneto doesn't really hurt his followers unless they betray him.

Place your past in a book burn the pages let them cook.
WarriorEowyn from Victoria Since: Oct, 2010
#27: Jun 24th 2011 at 2:52:49 PM

Brotherhood. If most of the world wants to kill you, and you've got the power to fight back and defeat them, the rational response is to do so rather than just hoping that, if you're nice to the people who hate you for long enough, they might come around to tolerating your existence.

warrior93 warrior93 from North Carolina Since: Feb, 2011
warrior93
#28: Jun 24th 2011 at 9:21:43 PM

Magneto was right

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wi11ki11 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#29: Dec 2nd 2011 at 11:13:27 PM

Magneto, KILL ALL NORMY'S!!!

Kraken Since: Jun, 2012
#30: Dec 4th 2011 at 5:09:52 AM

X-Men.

Because at the end of the day, if the Brotherhood succeed, then you'll have a world where all your prospects are dictated entirely by your powerset; a caste-based society, and there is absolutely no way to break free from that.

At least a society of non-powered humans can reach beyond themselves.

edited 4th Dec '11 5:10:23 AM by Kraken

warrior93 warrior93 from North Carolina Since: Feb, 2011
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#31: Aug 7th 2012 at 8:14:56 PM

I doubt that magneto would let it get so bad if his side wins at the end.

Place your past in a book burn the pages let them cook.
WarriorEowyn from Victoria Since: Oct, 2010
#32: Aug 7th 2012 at 8:53:51 PM

It wouldn't be a caste-based system. It would be one where people who have superhuman abilities are actually free to use those abilities rather than concealing them. And once being a mutant is something admirable rather than shameful, it wouldn't be that difficult for any of the top-level scientists to find a way to enable regular humans to have mutant powers as well; some might get a different appearances along with that, but if visible mutations are no longer a stigma, that becomes less problematic due to shifting beauty standards. And non-mutants who have exceptional abilities in other ways are still able to exercise them.

The expected result would be faster technological progress, as people with useful powers are actually able to use them freely, without fear of being killed or conscripted by the government.

SpaceJawa UTINNI! from Right Here Since: Jan, 2001
UTINNI!
#33: Aug 7th 2012 at 9:45:43 PM

What if I choose neither and pretended I got my powers through a good-old-fashion freak accident like 90% of the rest of the non-mutant universe and tried to just be a regular old superhero?

Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Brony
#34: Aug 7th 2012 at 9:48:10 PM

Can I join X-Factor, instead? You know, the group that's actually been living Xavier's dream for a while now, by living and working openly among humans? Instead of segregating themselves within a rural mansion?

The great mistake the X-Men have made over the years is that they've always essentially ghetto-ized themselves. Their secrecy has ensured the public doesn't trust them.

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WarriorEowyn from Victoria Since: Oct, 2010
#35: Aug 8th 2012 at 2:39:36 AM

That's hardly fair. Part of the context of X-Men is that mutants are frequently attacked - either by private citizens or the government - simply for being mutants. The mistrust and hatred came well before the school.

edited 8th Aug '12 2:39:58 AM by WarriorEowyn

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#36: Aug 8th 2012 at 5:59:33 AM

Now I think on it, how come the X-Factor is never attacked by anti-mutants lunatics. It is no secret they are there, after all. One would think it is easier to go for them than for the X Men.

Anyway, I kinda agree with Tiamatty. For ears they lived apart from society, it is no wonder people distrust them. It was even worse in the early days, when pretty much everything about them was secret, including the nature of the school. Okay, I guess less students died in there back then so that is a good thing. When one could find no address, telephone or even real name of any X Men, people would be wary. And even those who, by chance, were okay with then, couldn't call for help in case of emergency.

I think the original X-Factor had a good idea. Not the whole "we hunt dangerous mutants for YOU", of course. But the ton of marketing. Giving people information so they can at last call to someone. They could even give some of the original 5 real identity to easy peoples mind as well. Half of them never seemed to have much of a life outside the X Men, anyway.

edited 8th Aug '12 6:08:44 AM by Heatth

KingZeal Since: Oct, 2009
#37: Aug 8th 2012 at 9:26:11 AM

It wouldn't be a caste-based system. It would be one where people who have superhuman abilities are actually free to use those abilities rather than concealing them. And once being a mutant is something admirable rather than shameful, it wouldn't be that difficult for any of the top-level scientists to find a way to enable regular humans to have mutant powers as well; some might get a different appearances along with that, but if visible mutations are no longer a stigma, that becomes less problematic due to shifting beauty standards. And non-mutants who have exceptional abilities in other ways are still able to exercise them.

The expected result would be faster technological progress, as people with useful powers are actually able to use them freely, without fear of being killed or conscripted by the government.

That goes contrary to how Magneto has behaved in the past (usually in alternate universes, but close enough to canon that we can see it as a thought pattern). Magneto's belief is that mutants are "more evolved" than humans through natural selection. He doesn't see mutates (ex: Spider-man, the Fantastic Four, Daredevil) as equals to mutants. For example, in House Of M (where Magneto actually did rule the world), he was pretty dismissive of humanity in general. He considered Ms Marvel an "honorary mutant" after she became the ''most decorated heroine on Earth'', and implied it was just an honorary title. In Marvel Vs Capcom 3, he shows contempt for Albert Wesker's genetic modifications ("Mutants are born, not made.") And when he first meets Rocket Raccoon, he finds his "mutant form" interesting, but after the fight... "So you are no mutant? Then I care not for your welfare! BEGONE!"

In light of this, in a world Magneto ruled, anyone born without an X-gene would be considered an obsolete dinosaur destined for extinction. Exceptional humans (people he likes or people who impress him) might be worth his time, but other than that, he wouldn't even have regard for basic "human" rights. Mutant winds up dead in an alley? SOUND THE ALARM! Human winds up that way? That's a real shame.

edited 8th Aug '12 9:31:05 AM by KingZeal

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#38: Aug 9th 2012 at 11:13:26 PM

In short, it would be a similar situation as to the one mutants are in now, but flipped.

TeChameleon Since: Jan, 2001
#39: Aug 9th 2012 at 11:36:27 PM

Basically, yup. Except with a more autocratic ruler in charge, which has its own ups and downs :/

... particularly one who has a history of mental instability >.<

As far as the Academy/Acolytes debate goes, I think I'd go 'screw 'em both' and go join Alpha Flight or maybe Excalibur.

Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Brony
#40: Aug 10th 2012 at 1:03:21 AM

Actually, as a Canadian, I think I'd pretty much automatically end up in Department H. But I'm a coward, so I'd probably ask not to be put on a superteam, and instead simply use my powers for basic stuff that doesn't put me in any danger.

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warrior93 warrior93 from North Carolina Since: Feb, 2011
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#41: Aug 11th 2012 at 10:51:36 AM

So what if you're born a mutant and you lived in Lavetria?

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#42: Aug 11th 2012 at 11:41:07 AM

Depends, am I in a phase where Doom loves and cares for the people of Latveria, or one where they suffer horrifically (if they're not killed outright) under his cruel rule? Or both?

edited 11th Aug '12 11:41:27 AM by KnownUnknown

warrior93 warrior93 from North Carolina Since: Feb, 2011
warrior93
#43: Aug 11th 2012 at 9:20:17 PM

both most likely

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TeChameleon Since: Jan, 2001
#44: Aug 12th 2012 at 1:58:09 PM

I'm not sure that it's ever been explicitly stated what Doom does with mutants, if anything. Although if you wanted to pull a Brotherhood-type stunt there, you'd better hope you're Servoguard-proof <.<

KingZeal Since: Oct, 2009
#45: Aug 13th 2012 at 5:20:18 AM

Doom isn't exactly racist against mutants, but he sees them as a threat. One would assume that mutants born in Latveria would be submitted to him as either a lab rat or a super soldier or whatever else he saw fit for their level of power.

SpaceJawa UTINNI! from Right Here Since: Jan, 2001
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#46: Aug 13th 2012 at 8:41:57 PM

Or any mutants born in Latveria would use their mutant powers to get the 'eck out of dodge ASAP.

RockLeeYourFace Splendid Ninja from Narutard Land (or Texas) Since: Jul, 2011
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#47: Sep 28th 2013 at 12:18:46 AM

Now I think on it, how come the X-Factor is never attacked by anti-mutants lunatics. It is no secret they are there, after all.

I seriously read this and thought of the tv show The X-Factor. I was all like "Yeah, why haven't they been attacked by anti-mutant lunatics? I mean, it's televised. ...wait." And this is what happens when I've been up for 20 hours and start to lose my mind.[lol]

I also just realized that this thread has been inactive for over a year...

edited 28th Sep '13 12:22:00 AM by RockLeeYourFace

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C0mraid from Here and there Since: Aug, 2010
#48: Sep 28th 2013 at 1:36:57 PM

[up]Reaction 1: 20 hours? Lightweight.

Reaction 2: Over a year? Christ on a bike.

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