First thing's first: KEEP. THIS. SHIT. CIVIL. If you can't talk about race without resorting to childish insults and rude generalizations or getting angry at people who don't see it your way, leave the thread.
With that said, I bring you to what can hopefully be the general thread about race.
First, a few starter questions.
- How, if at all, do you feel your race affects your everyday life?
- Do you believe that white people (or whatever the majority race in your area is) receive privileges simply because of the color of their skin. How much?
- Do you believe minorities are discriminated against for the same reason? How much?
- Do you believe that assimilation of cultures is better than people trying to keep their own?
- Affirmative Action. Yea, Nay? Why or why not?
Also, a personal question from me.
- Why (in my experience, not trying to generalize) do white people often try to insist that they aren't white? I can't count the number of times I've heard "I'm not white, I'm 1/4th English, 1/4th German, 1/4th Scandinavian 1/8th Cherokee, and 1/8th Russian," as though 4 of 5 of those things aren't considered "white" by the masses. Is it because you have pride for your ancestry, or an attempt to try and differentiate yourself from all those "other" white people? Or something else altogether?
edited 30th May '11 9:16:04 PM by Wulf
Not sure if this is the right place to put it, but considering who the perpetrator is...
Laura Ingraham Laughs, Jokes While Covering Nipsey Hussle's Funeral.
I feel sick.
White Supremacist piece of trash.
"Sandwiches are probably easier to fix than the actual problems" -Hylarn
Mom Says Arizona Teacher Had Class Shame Black 9-Year-Old to Teach a Very Important History Lesson on Racism
Oh, bother.
That non-apology of "I'm sorry you were offended" was predictable.
I'm also not surprised that said teacher was not certified. Or that it happened at a charter school.
Edited by M84 on Apr 18th 2019 at 10:10:52 PM
Disgusted, but not surprised
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It sounds like it was going to be a lesson they taught to white privileged kids who normally don't experience racism, wonder what made them choose the black kid?Cowardice it sounds like
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Hrm. BASIS? That name rings a bell ... "Highest percentage of graduations in the nation", perhaps. Maybe they harangue all underperformers out or don't let them in in the first place? And performance metrics like "underperformer" tend to expand...
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
That's what happens when you turn education into a business.
Who Am I?
Or cut the payroll budget. But this was blatant enough that malicious intent cannot be ignored.
"We learn from history that we do not learn from history."
According to the Chronicle, many photos were shared in a now-private Facebook group called “Correctional Officer Life,” comprising 3,000 members.
Oh, bother.
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Charter schools like this one are even worse than private schools in certain ways.
And guess what? Our current Secretary of Education, Betsy Devos, one of the worst people in the Trump administration, is a big fan of them.
Disgusted, but not surprised
Private Schools have a need to actually function.
Charter Schools exist to soak up money until they collapse.
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Oh, bother.
Private schools are also very much an alternative to public schools. Parents do not have to send kids to private schools.
Charter schools otoh are public schools. Privately managed ones. And they directly compete with other public schools for state funding.
Here's a site with some of the differences: Charter Schools vs. Public Schools
About 24% of charter schools close due to mismanagement, which is the 2nd largest reason for closure besides funding issues. Since charter schools and public schools directly compete for public funding, some argue that the existence of charter school undermines the public education system. Additionally, since charter schools can be run by for-profit organizations, some criticise for-profit charter schools as turning education into a business opportunity.
Edited by M84 on Apr 18th 2019 at 10:28:18 PM
Disgusted, but not surprised
Twitter Won't Treat White Supremacy Like ISIS Because It'd Have to Ban Some GOP Politicians Too – A Twitter employee who works on machine learning believes that a proactive, algorithmic solution to white supremacy would also catch Republican politicians.
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This is the point where I wonder if we can block them at least from Europe. We are after all not under any obligation to put up with these jerks, either.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
I don't think it's possible to beat bad ideas by shutting them down anymore if it was ever possible in the first place. Not with the internet as we know it existing.
Well evil will just migrate but not giving it a platform is a good thing.
It's why I generally agree that Captain America fighting Hydra in the movies was a good thing as you don't want to give white supremecists toys and mascots.
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
I think not barring these people from public platforms is like ignoring an open wound: it'll fester and rot if left alone.
Yes they'll migrate, but keeping them away from public spaces can help to eliminate the spread of infection, if you catch my drift.
Edited by HailMuffins on Apr 25th 2019 at 3:51:49 PM
This is obviously false, if people are not exposed to ideas then they will not believe them. The socialist movement in the US was utterly decimated by government action decades ago, it's just barely beginning to recover. We can and should do the same to White Supremacists.
Giving people a platform merely broadcasts their voice, take away the platform and you take away their ability to reach as many people.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Apr 25th 2019 at 11:53:26 AM
"Sandwiches are probably easier to fix than the actual problems" -Hylarn
I don't know if I agree with that, someone who feels marginalized will search out something to be a part of and they find these places most often through personal connections. They don't take the highway and so while putting a checkpoint on a highway might make you feel better, it's not going to stop them. The fundamental success of the internet is to allow people with niche interests to find each other. That's something you can't stop without fundamentally changing how the internet works. Shutting someone down in the market of ideas don't beat them, it weirdly legitimizes them as a threat to the status quo. People want to feel important and if being a threat to the status quo lets them feel important they will.
Consider for a moment which of these three are most likely to change your mind: A logical breakdown of why the plot and character arcs make no sense; A snide, mocking commentary highlighting all of the film's most ridiculous flaws; Telling you that only bad people like this movie, and that you will be punished if you continue to say you liked it. The first two might work, the third doesn't work. In fact it makes things worse because by pushing them away, you push them into the arms of the very people your goal is to keep them from.
That's a good argument, but the problem is how the algorithm tends to make people slide down into extremism.
Say, for instance, that you saw a video review criticising Captain Marvel. Fair enough, right? But then Youtube reccommends another review, this time from an anti-SJW, which leads you to watch a channel from an incel, and so on until you turn into the kind of prick we complain about here.
See, the problem isn't the people who seek out this stuff, is the people who don't know better or just don't know much that can, and in fact do, get seduced into these extremist movement.
The exemple I gave? I compressed the process a bit, but that is very much how it tends to go.
It often doesn't help that most people don't double check stuff out.
How dare black people exist in public!