First thing's first: KEEP. THIS. SHIT. CIVIL. If you can't talk about race without resorting to childish insults and rude generalizations or getting angry at people who don't see it your way, leave the thread.
With that said, I bring you to what can hopefully be the general thread about race.
First, a few starter questions.
- How, if at all, do you feel your race affects your everyday life?
- Do you believe that white people (or whatever the majority race in your area is) receive privileges simply because of the color of their skin. How much?
- Do you believe minorities are discriminated against for the same reason? How much?
- Do you believe that assimilation of cultures is better than people trying to keep their own?
- Affirmative Action. Yea, Nay? Why or why not?
Also, a personal question from me.
- Why (in my experience, not trying to generalize) do white people often try to insist that they aren't white? I can't count the number of times I've heard "I'm not white, I'm 1/4th English, 1/4th German, 1/4th Scandinavian 1/8th Cherokee, and 1/8th Russian," as though 4 of 5 of those things aren't considered "white" by the masses. Is it because you have pride for your ancestry, or an attempt to try and differentiate yourself from all those "other" white people? Or something else altogether?
edited 30th May '11 9:16:04 PM by Wulf
But your slurs are really weird and overbroad, like we in spanish still use Occidental and Oriental interchangeably with East and West, calling someone "el judio" or "el chino" or "El asiatico" "el negro" "el indio" "el indigena" "el rabiblanco" is not in any way despective, unless it's intent is obviously malicious.
It's not that Israel has different slurs - it's an entirely different mentality. Israelis in general places a lot less importance on words than on the actual content; a lot of Israeli politicians are Cluster F-Bombs, and people don't care about that. That's also why Israelis are considered by many to be rude; we just say what we think, and we don't bother to cover it up with smiles, because there's no point if you see through it anyway.
edited 20th Apr '16 1:47:14 AM by yoneld
Fear of a name increases fear of the thing itself.It depends on the context and the person using them. It's weird.
Oh and since we breezed by the N word thing and I am an actual black person I... Don't really exercise the so-called privileges. I was raised in a manner where I would never use the term in any situation. The majority of reclamation of the term seems to come from people who are in less privileged positions and don't know any better or those trying to relate to a more, I guess "gangsta" lifestyle. In many ways I'm just as outside of the culture as a lot of you guys are. I find it confounding that people keep using the term.
But I also don't do much cursing either.
The Blog The ArtI've seen my share of "Jew" being used as a offensive slur, not directly against myself, but I've dealt with a lot of Anti-Semites while I was participating of the Skeptic Project conspiracy theory debunking.
In Portuguese black is either "preto" or "negro" and I've seen both being used to describe black people but both also being used as a self description and as a slur. Mostly varies with the context and tone.
I wouldn't mind being referred as a Jew, but the tone sets de intention of how respectful it is.
Inter arma enim silent leges"the problem is they don't really ask why they're in that situation"
is one of this situation that people just happen to see, like muslim being extremist or italian and the mafia, it just pop out of nowhere.
Now about slurs, here in venezuela can get weird, we have things like calling the person less white "negrito"(blacky) but as other said its done in playfull and somewhat ignorant matter, I dont know in other place it but here in latinomamerica we have this resistance to speak of racism in anyway, frame it as something else is......weird.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"Well, some dipshit in here in Brazil traveled to Japan to get a tattoo done by a Japanese artist. Long story short, after the tattoo said individual took pictures to brag about it and one of his Japanese speaking friends told him what was actually tattooed on his back: Baka Gaijin.
Inter arma enim silent legesBaka is the main insult there though.
Well at least as far as I am concerend on the mater, I mean we have much worse words for insulting forigen people and forigner is an easy descriptor.
On the other hand, I can see why thats a probelm too....
So yea, I am foing back to the confusion corner.
Edit: For the curious, Dojin and Yabanjin are much worse.
Ikokujin is worse then Gaijin but not as bad as those two.
edited 20th Apr '16 1:34:47 PM by Imca
Late reply, but...
In my mind, the term is vaguely equivalent to "colored" or "Negro." That is to say, a term so antiquated as to be mildly offensive. It isn't as bad as, say, "chink" or "gook" or "Jap" or what have you, at least not to me. There are, however, many Asian-Americans who consider it an outright racial slur, one equivalent to the N-word, so yeah, in the US it is much worse than "Asian."
Now, I also know that in many areas of the world (including the UK, to the best of my knowledge), the word doesn't carry the same offensive connotations and sees relatively common usage. But if you're in the US, or talking to someone from the US, I would strongly advise against using the term "Oriental."
"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."Just do like Trevor Noah did in that bank. Check the "White" box.
edited 21st Apr '16 1:08:48 AM by TheHandle
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I'm not saying Israel is a bastion of racial tolerance (it's definitely not) but the fact is that people aren't hurt by word usage. Not that there aren't tensions; but nobody is going to get offended if you call them a certain word. I don't get offended when someone uses the word "Ashkenazi" or "Jew" in that context; I do get offended if someone actually means to deride Ashkenazis or Jews.
Fear of a name increases fear of the thing itself.