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MsOranjeDiscoDancer 2much2furious from the Saja Boys' last performance! Since: Aug, 2022 Relationship Status: Will you go out with me to the End?
2much2furious
#10201: Jan 19th 2025 at 3:44:50 AM

Paz and Zadornov type beat

i may be dead inside but at least i have Mystery :,)
neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
Mr
#10202: Jan 20th 2025 at 6:46:51 AM

I could see the characters that you would be able to use as commanders of the base being the main villains of the games. Such as Big Boss, Liquid Snake, Solidus Snake, Volgin, Gene, Hot Coldman, Liquid Ocelot and Skullface.

"May your heart be your guiding key"
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#10203: Jan 20th 2025 at 6:54:37 AM

I feel like Big Boss as a enemy base commander would be such a hilariously meta choice because he should logically know all of Snake's tricks like the cardboard box, he still probably wouldn't warn his men about it.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
Mr
#10204: Jan 20th 2025 at 11:25:16 AM

I could see each base commander having a super weapon and a base Lieutenant that Snake has to deal with first. For an example Big Boss would have Metal Gear D and Gray Fox. The super weapon would have a scientist in charge of building it like Dr. Madnar, Hal, Emma, Sokolov, Strangelove, Dr Naomi, Para medic or Codetalker.

Edited by neoamon on Jan 20th 2025 at 7:33:27 PM

"May your heart be your guiding key"
MsOranjeDiscoDancer 2much2furious from the Saja Boys' last performance! Since: Aug, 2022 Relationship Status: Will you go out with me to the End?
2much2furious
#10205: Jan 22nd 2025 at 3:18:48 PM

man i wish kojima didnt hate Portable Ops/Plus, because there was a feature kinda like that in that certain characters had different weapons they could use — Tengu always had the HF blades, for example

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M1gamiTensei The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps from Punished “Brainwashed” M1gami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps
#10206: Jan 22nd 2025 at 6:42:09 PM

I mean, it is pretty easy to canonize Portable Ops. Just say those special recruitment missions never happened like with EVA and obviously, Old Snake. I want Portable Ops rereleased with the simple change of giving Snake the fulton.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#10207: Jan 22nd 2025 at 7:20:33 PM

Gotta say, it was really cool playing as Ocelot.

I used a cheat code to unlock him early. Remember those?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
SgtRicko Since: Jul, 2009
#10208: Jan 22nd 2025 at 10:51:47 PM

Wassat? You mean mods and pirate hacks, grandpa? Man, I didn't know people had those back in the day! tongue

MsOranjeDiscoDancer 2much2furious from the Saja Boys' last performance! Since: Aug, 2022 Relationship Status: Will you go out with me to the End?
2much2furious
#10209: Jan 23rd 2025 at 10:16:53 AM

[up][up][up]imo Kaz dismissing the events of Portable Ops as "that crap" as well as the fact the events of Peace Walker, GZ, and MGSV would have gone differently if Big Boss had realised they were repeats of the Portable Ops incidents makes it barely canon

hell, Peace Walker and MGSV are basically repeats of what happens in Portable Ops, and I suspect it was because Kojima doesn't like anything made without his supervision

like, he would have known how to deal with Hot Coldman

there's also the fact it's included in the games that kaz dismisses as not important in the Deja Vu episode

also i should replay AC!D2 again. Venus and Teliko being in MGS PO/PO+ and nowhere else saddens me. Venus is a hilarious asshole

Edited by MsOranjeDiscoDancer on Jan 23rd 2025 at 11:24:52 AM

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ShirowShirow Dinosaur Hunter from Land of Maple Syrup (Old as dirt)
Dinosaur Hunter
#10210: Jan 23rd 2025 at 4:38:54 PM

The Acid games and Portable Ops remain completely unplayable to my PSP-less ass.

Venus and Teliko should form a canon Lovely Angels pair. And make out.

You are not alone.
MsOranjeDiscoDancer 2much2furious from the Saja Boys' last performance! Since: Aug, 2022 Relationship Status: Will you go out with me to the End?
2much2furious
#10211: Jan 23rd 2025 at 5:17:37 PM

agreed

we got kaz and boss. vamp and dolph do not count, fuck vamp and not in that way

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M1gamiTensei The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps from Punished “Brainwashed” M1gami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps
#10212: Jan 23rd 2025 at 8:28:10 PM

Its weird also people use that line of Kaz about San Hieronimo is used as a decanon line. But if he directly acknowledges where it all happened, doesnt that confirm its canon to a degree?

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diddyknux (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#10213: Jan 23rd 2025 at 10:09:11 PM

Yes. That confirms that Portable Ops did happen, but Kojima wasn't concerning himself too much with whether his story might tred on PO's toes.

Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#10214: Jan 24th 2025 at 9:39:32 AM

I noticed a lot of my remaining mission objectives are based on overhearing conversations.

Never trust anyone who uses "degenerate" as an insult.
SgtRicko Since: Jul, 2009
#10215: Jan 24th 2025 at 4:35:51 PM

Oh yeah, those objectives.

You better have a guide handy to help show where the conversations happen or else it's going to be a lot of guesswork and frustration. Doubly so since those particular objectives are rather finicky and sometimes don't properly trigger or acknowledge completion.

MsOranjeDiscoDancer 2much2furious from the Saja Boys' last performance! Since: Aug, 2022 Relationship Status: Will you go out with me to the End?
2much2furious
#10216: Jan 31st 2025 at 4:02:46 PM

i wish it was better done because in Hitman you can freely move among civilians and pick up info, whereas here you had to hope and pray the right base has the right conversation

i may be dead inside but at least i have Mystery :,)
SgtRicko Since: Jul, 2009
#10217: Jan 31st 2025 at 4:46:25 PM

There was only a couple of missions where eavesdropping is crucial to complete the objective; the rest of the time it's just fluff or potential secondary objectives, and even then there's often some document lying around somewhere in the mission which has the necessary info.

Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#10218: Feb 2nd 2025 at 3:12:22 PM

Trying to complete all the mission objectives is one of the worst examples of being subjected to sunk cost fallacy in recent memory.

Never trust anyone who uses "degenerate" as an insult.
SgtRicko Since: Jul, 2009
#10219: Feb 2nd 2025 at 5:39:57 PM

Remember, you don't need to always complete every single objective, just whatever you're missing out on in the mission. Really important to keep that in mind for Back Up, Back Down since that mission has secondary objectives (namely, prisoners) scattered all over the place and there's simply no way to complete them all.

Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#10220: Feb 3rd 2025 at 12:23:58 PM

I know, but every remaining mission objective feels longer, buggier, and more obtuse than the last.

Never trust anyone who uses "degenerate" as an insult.
dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#10221: Feb 3rd 2025 at 1:29:29 PM

This thread made we want to revisit it. I got a cutscene of DD then took a shower and took off in the heli and now its been loading for something like 10 minutes.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#10222: Feb 3rd 2025 at 1:44:18 PM

So it's the year of the Snake. I just started up Twin Snakes on my Steam Deck. Seems appropriate.

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SgtRicko Since: Jul, 2009
#10223: Feb 3rd 2025 at 8:26:59 PM

@Mullon: Yeah, it's really obvious they ran out of good ideas and were just adding in filler after a certain point.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#10224: Feb 6th 2025 at 5:12:24 AM

A real Solid Snake must have infiltrated Konami HQ and revealed Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater is coming August 28th, 2025!

We also got a trailer!

Snake vs. Monkey is back! Look at that HD Pipo Monkey!

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Feb 6th 2025 at 8:15:06 AM

dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#10225: Feb 6th 2025 at 5:42:43 AM

Snake and the Cobras look pretty good.

Eva and Volgin... ehh.

And what have they done to Ocelot?


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