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Gabrael from My musings Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
#251: Aug 6th 2012 at 9:06:00 PM

So after hearing rumors of another Metal Gear Solid, my breath hastened in my chest! But here is what I request: No more Snake.

I love this series because it shows the humanity of war and the effects of PTSD in a way no other avenue has really. As I either played or watched through the series, I felt like I was almost breaking down with Snake. It was a beautiful journey with characters that I absolutely love. In fact, I love Snake so much I want them to leave him alone!

Now, that being said, I don't want the series to go away. I think another game coming from Big Boss' perspective or her history would be freaking nerdgasmicaly delicious if done right.

That is the next game I would love to see.

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MoeDantes cuter, cuddlier Edmond from the Land of Classics Since: Nov, 2010
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#252: Aug 6th 2012 at 9:31:49 PM

I honestly wish that Raiden had become the new main character. Instead they listen to the fans and kill him off in MGS 4...

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Bookyangel2438 from New York City Since: Jul, 2011
#253: Aug 6th 2012 at 10:04:59 PM

Huh? He didn't die. surprised

edited 6th Aug '12 10:05:35 PM by Bookyangel2438

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Null ... from ... Since: Apr, 2009
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#254: Aug 6th 2012 at 11:28:57 PM

Perhaps he meant symbolic death?

After all, MGS 4 Raiden and MGS 2 Raiden are...different. And MGR Raiden looks to be another major change as well.

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Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
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#255: Aug 6th 2012 at 11:43:21 PM

Pretty sure he's being sarcastic since Raiden ain't dead and now is the main character.

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Bookyangel2438 from New York City Since: Jul, 2011
MoeDantes cuter, cuddlier Edmond from the Land of Classics Since: Nov, 2010
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#257: Aug 7th 2012 at 12:11:45 AM

Okay wait, so was the plot summary I read wrong or something? Cuz I recall hearing that Raiden died to save Snake in MGS 4.

If Raiden is indeed the main character now, then I might resume my faith in the franchise.

EDIT: Okay, I have to ask: Raiden from MGS 2 versus Raiden from Mortal Kombat versus Raiden from Fatal Fury... if these three were to have a fight, who would win?

edited 7th Aug '12 12:12:57 AM by MoeDantes

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Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#258: Aug 7th 2012 at 12:12:23 AM

He lived and is the star in the upcoming game.

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Bookyangel2438 from New York City Since: Jul, 2011
#259: Aug 7th 2012 at 12:12:36 AM

He died but he got better I think. smile

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Cassie The armored raven from Malaysia, but where? Since: Feb, 2011
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#261: Aug 7th 2012 at 7:40:34 AM

In before more people who obviously never seen MGS-4's ending talk further

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OdieEsty Why would I write that? Since: Mar, 2012
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#262: Aug 7th 2012 at 8:12:49 AM

How do you not know Raiden lived? He's the star of the next game!

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MoeDantes cuter, cuddlier Edmond from the Land of Classics Since: Nov, 2010
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#263: Aug 7th 2012 at 9:28:41 AM

I thought the next game was an interqual between 2 and 4?

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OdieEsty Why would I write that? Since: Mar, 2012
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#264: Aug 7th 2012 at 9:31:10 AM

That was when it was MGS:R. Now it's MGR:R, which takes place 7 years afterwards. This is why Cyborgs are rampant and Raiden can pick Metal Gears up and toss them around.

The reason for the sudden change in personality is Raiden isn't being stealthy anymore, he's blatantly killing soldiers and can't cope anymore, so he's regressed into his "Jack the Ripper" personality.

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#265: Aug 8th 2012 at 4:53:15 AM

So I started playing Metal Gear Solid 3 recently. It's not bad. The cutscenes (and graphics in general) are great for PS 2, although they drag on far too long. The gameplay, however, is not. The overhead camera is clunky, especially in the boss fights where you actually need to aim at the boss. The Fear is incredibly frustrating for that reason, since he's mostly invisible and when you need to aim at him the first-person camera is facing the wrong way.

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Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#266: Aug 8th 2012 at 8:29:44 AM

Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence is much less clunky because it actually has a controllable camera. I got the Essential Collection box thing for the PS 2 so it came with Subsistence (3) and Substance (2).

MoeDantes cuter, cuddlier Edmond from the Land of Classics Since: Nov, 2010
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#267: Aug 8th 2012 at 9:08:15 AM

Plus if you get the 2-disc edition of Subsistence you get official English releases of the original MSX games—both of which are good.

That being said, I liked MGS 3 but didn't feel it was as awesome as people made out, certainly not "best in the series" awesome (I hold that MGS 2 is better. My IRL best friend holds that MGS 1 is the best).

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DeviumFilius The Cowardly Since: Jul, 2012
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#268: Aug 8th 2012 at 8:02:34 PM

Just defeated Sniper Wolf in Metal Gear Solid 1 and would appreciate some advice on okay, yours truly sucks at minigames, so I kept dying at Ocelot's torture. I saved myself some time and just surrendered, although I've heard this understandably yields a very bad ending. I saved right before and planned on going back to play through again when I could beat the stupid minigame. Working on breaking out of the jail cell now.

Please be the awesome Tropers I know you are and spoiler tag anything beyond that until my noob self goes away. Thanks.

Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
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#269: Aug 8th 2012 at 8:13:44 PM

It does lead to a bad ending, but is the only way to get a certain item. There's another exclusive item if you can beat it though.

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DeviumFilius The Cowardly Since: Jul, 2012
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#270: Aug 8th 2012 at 8:21:07 PM

It's not worth the traumatic flashback when you see the bloodstains. I'M SORRY MERYL. THE O BUTTON ON MY CONTROL IS JAMMED, I'M SORRY. But a unique item sounds cool. And holy crap they have the worst prison guards ever in this game

Thanks, I'd heard that you receive a "bad" ending but didn't know if it was like a Castlevania bad ending (screws you out of three hours of gameplay) or just bad in the sense that it wasn't as happy. Seems like the latter so far. I thought MGS would be overly cruel and have Sniper Wolf be waiting at the same spot, but no. Part of me wondered if you could even beat the torture, thanks for clarifying that you can. Turns out I just suck at pressing a button over and over again. Explains why I'm bad at Call of Duty.

edited 8th Aug '12 8:21:43 PM by DeviumFilius

Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#271: Aug 8th 2012 at 8:25:31 PM

To be honest both MGS 1 and MGS 2's torture scenes are just brutal in difficulty. They're easier in every other game.

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DeviumFilius The Cowardly Since: Jul, 2012
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#272: Aug 8th 2012 at 8:38:41 PM

If you really want something to challenge your sanity, going all the way up the stairs in the Comm Tower to realize you were supposed to go down inside is rather mind-ravaging.

AndroidChaos The Trope Seeker from Mexico Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#273: Aug 8th 2012 at 9:38:37 PM

You can actually use Turbo fire with a controller that has that capability in order to endure the torture. It works damn well even when you're playing in Extreme and I kept track on how many shocks you recieve per session thanks to Ocelot.

Very Easy (Not that I ever played the game on that mode except for the lulz):2 Easy: 3 Normal: 4 Hard: 5 Extreme: 6

I use a technique with my middle finger so that it's less tiring and it gives me a bit more quickness for the torture. That said, you're gonna have to be like a boss if you want to endure it in Extreme.

MoeDantes cuter, cuddlier Edmond from the Land of Classics Since: Nov, 2010
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#274: Aug 9th 2012 at 1:16:05 AM

Here's how I defeated the torture:

Get a pencil. No seriously, for some reason its much easier to slide the pencil back and forth over the O button than it is to press it with your thumb. It was almost too easy.

I've heard this works with other implements, such as spoons, as well. Be aware that you might be leaving scratches on the area around your O button if you do this. You can think of them as battle scars.

edited 9th Aug '12 1:19:25 AM by MoeDantes

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Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
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#275: Aug 9th 2012 at 5:27:07 AM

I just press the button real fast. I works (almost) every time!grin

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