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#152: Dec 26th 2011 at 5:51:23 PM

[up] Made me giggle...

Where were we..?

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#153: Dec 27th 2011 at 12:53:36 PM

It is kind of funny but there's a special kind of frustration associated with having a thread in which something very interesting has emerged, requesting additional information, seeing it update, and opening the thread only to find that it's just a pun.

Or maybe I was just in a bad mood. <_< Sorry.

And thanks. :D

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#154: Dec 27th 2011 at 1:08:40 PM

Sorry, I just couldn't resist.

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#155: Jan 14th 2012 at 12:08:05 PM

I finally watched this.

It wasn't actually as bad as I expected. There were a few gross stupidities on Kate's part and on the Thing's part, and far too many characters with too little characterisation for each compared to the original, but combined those made the film passable at worst and I think I was only disappointed in the CGI twice (when Grigg's face comes off and when the arm bug splices itself back together for whatever reason).

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#156: Jun 20th 2012 at 12:37:52 PM

Can anyone assist me? I had an idea for a horror romance short story involving a different Thing (I was inspired by a film called Let The Right One In and the short story by Peter Watts)

I'm just not sure how to make it work.

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#157: Jun 22nd 2012 at 12:33:24 PM

I think you want to visit the Writer's Block subforum...

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#158: Jun 22nd 2012 at 1:34:34 PM

...Horror romance story involving The Thing?

Please don't tell me this is going where I think it's going...

Anyway, the prequel was terrible, and it should rightfully be forgotten.

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#159: Jun 24th 2012 at 11:45:32 AM

[up]oh No, you don't have to worry about me using that. I'm actually trying to create an Eldritch Abomination that's a cross between the Thing and the Great Race of Yith.

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#161: Jun 25th 2012 at 5:37:44 AM

[up]But the Yith are still part of the Cthulhu Mythos.

How do I even make an Eldritch Abomination?

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#162: Jun 25th 2012 at 12:49:20 PM

Just because it's a Cosmic Horror Story doesn't mean it involves a Cosmic Horror (funnily enough). :P The Elder Things, the Great Race of Yith, the Fungi from Yuggoth, the Coleopterous Race... Even the infamous shoggoths are too understandable, too biological to qualify.

Think about what an 'abomination' is in other contexts. Giving yourself a papercut is hardly worth talking about. Accidentally amputating a finger or even a limb, however gruesomely, is a pity or a shame. The unintentional death of a single person is a tragedy. Chernobyl, on the other hand, is an abomination - it may be similar in the most general sort of way, but the sheer scope of the event, the extent of the negligence required and the consequences that resulted, make it hardly capable of being understood in the same way. "Okay, think of a papercut. Now imagine that Eastern Europe got one." There are countless ways the analogy breaks down, starting with utterly failing to convey the outrage and dismay that truly understanding the effects of a nuclear disaster on a substantial portion of the Ukraine should inspire.

An eldritch abomination is similar. It's not icky and covered in tentacles - even though that's what most people will point to, and how most people try to write them. The key part is being incomprehensible. Cthulhu - to use everyone's favourite - is kind of like a giant buff green dude with dragon wings wearing a squid, in the same way that Chernobyl is kind of like a papercut.

Lovecraft invested a lot of words into trying to talk about how Chernobyl was like a papercut, but - how could I say it? - a cut that is mouldering, festering, slowly decaying from within by rays the eye of man is not made to see and survive, covering the landscape and spreading in the dust from man to beast and back! - but it has somewhat lost its appeal to the modern reader. There are other ways of doing the same kind of thing, though - using multiple complex analogies, for instance, which all describe the same being but obviously cannot all be true simultaneously in the literal sense.

Just don't say that it's kind of like a squid. It's been done. And most people don't share Lovecraft's crippling phobia of marine biology.

edited 25th Jun '12 12:51:35 PM by Noaqiyeum

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#163: Jun 26th 2012 at 7:23:52 PM

I should also add that an Edlritch Abomination is not necessarily scarier than an icky, slime-covered non-Eldritch monster. None of the incarnations of the thing were Eldritch Abominations, but the original and the John Carpenter's version are terrifying.

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#164: Jun 26th 2012 at 7:45:20 PM

Also true. This is part of the reason why 'Eldritch Abomination' has become so overused - people think they are somehow innately better than other kinds of villains, which isn't the case.

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