Just clarifying, it was supposed to be just tropes where the title itself is a spoiler. Like The Hero Dies, Did Not Get the Girl, All Just a Dream. So apparently this crowner is about all spoilers in general? Yeah that seems obviously terrible, I don't think anyone wanted to do that.
EDIT: Found it!
Duh, I was looking in Wiki Talk, but it was in Trope Repair Shop...
There was a pretty fair share of support for it.
edited 28th May '11 1:04:41 PM by troacctid
And for reference, the portion of the Spoiler Policy in question:
Hmmm, so that's where it was. Let's see..
Well, it is about tropes where the title is a spoiler. At least, that was my impression of what the other people meant by "spoiler tropes". There really are very few tropes where this is inherent. As suggested in the other thread, The Hero Dies doesn't give much away for a Death Is Cheap work like Dragon Ball Z.
Also, in retrospect, TRS was probably the wrong place to make this kind of decision. Should have been in Wiki Talk from the beginning.
And in regard to the "swiss-cheese" thing brought up in the original discussion; if a page does look like that, it doesn't "need" the spoilers - it needs serious repair.
Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)Wait, was this all spoilers like Heel–Face Turn, or inherent spoilers like The Bad Guy Wins?
Fight smart, not fair.
To clarify, me has meant the tropes with spoileriffic (in context of the work) titles.
Still it shouldn't be done this way it's going to get messy if so as the debate on what's what will be harsh as hell as well as some spoiler tropes are not actually spoilers in said works due to various things like Spock Killed Off for Real in Star Trek II was in the trailer so not a spoiler.
Then there are some that hinge on if people watch the series or not like people will not watch a No Ending series and such so they will want that in the non spoiler section there and others will want it in the spoilers section.
We could organize everything in folders like Warhammer 40 K's page so that if you want the various types of tropes so you will only see tropes of a type your looking for so if you see a spoilered plot trope don't be Too Dumb to Live...
edited 29th May '11 9:29:34 AM by Raso
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What are you talking about? Warhammer 40 K's tropes is organized alphabetically. It has, at most, a separated page of different works under the franchise, but it is still strictly alphabetic ordering.
That being said, I am not averse a better organization in the tropes. For Long-Runners, organizing tropes by arc may be very useful, specially when handling spoilers.
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Sorry apparantly the sandbox wasnt ever made the thread on the subject.
Pages its already on is Gunnerkrigg Court, Neon Genesis Evangelion and then the Arcs thing is done with Buffy The Vampire Slayer.
edited 29th May '11 5:28:43 PM by Raso
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I see. Now you pointed, I remember the thread. I liked it, but since I have no much knowledge over the subject, I ignored and forget it. Anyway, I am all for this kind of separation.
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Eh, it depends on the work, but in many cases it is really obvious. And it don't need to have an absolute clean cut point, as long it is organized. If one work don't uses clean cut 'arcs' then go for 'seasons' or whatever is best for that particular work. Naruto(an anime that actually does have clean cut major arcs) separate between 'overall tropes' and 'particular episode tropes', for example.
Crown Description:
Should inherently spoiler tropes (Tropes where the very name of the trope is a spoiler for the work, like Bad Guy Wins or The Hero Dies) be grouped up at the bottom of work pages that they are spoilers for?

Correct. Give me a second...
Crowner
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edited 28th May '11 11:38:34 AM by TotemicHero
Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)