LGBTQ+ Rights and America

In Nevada, Governor Lombardo (R) signs two bills related to transgender rights and vetoed another. One bill would require health insurance companies (including Medicaid) to cover gender-affirming surgeries, and the other would require the state's Dept. of Corrections to adopt health standards for trans people in prison. The bill he vetoed would have protected providers of gender-affirming services from losing their medical license. (AP News)

Edited by nova92 on Jun 13th 2023 at 10:07:04 PM

...I never knew that it wasn't included in the first place, although it's hardly surprising.

So a mixed bag? Some good, some bad?

I'm not sure if this vid has been posted before, but feels very, VERY, relevant:

I find it incredibly and disturbingly hypocritical that for all DeSatans condemnations of LGBT community being groomers and pedophiles, Florida is actually the one of the most popular states for child beauty pageants, three words that made me sick even typing.

Well, something you have to remember

Every accusation is a confession.

It's important to remember that the Right really hates the idea of seeing children as independent people with their own inner lives. They're "protecting children"...from the tyranny of being treated as anything other than the possessions of the parents.

Narcissist parents are a good chunk of the Republican voting base or so I hear.

The same people who screams like a bunch of banshees about "THINK OF THE CHILDREN" don't seem to have a problem with lifting child labor restrictions, leaving children malnourished both in and out of school, forcing them to carry rapists' children, and not doing a damn thing about school shootings.

Hell, why bother with passing all those LGBT oppression laws. Why couldn't they just send their oh so powerful thoughts and prayers instead?

/smh

It's something that's always worth remembering: the level of rights they give to the unborn are just enough to strip rights from women. That means that as soon as a baby is born, rights have to be immediately stripped from it in order to bring it into line with the (limited) rights of minors.

Boy, these conservatives are really something, aren't they? They're all in favor of the unborn. They will do anything for the unborn.

But once you're born, you're on your own. Pro-life conservatives are obsessed with the fetus from conception to nine months. After that, they don't want to know about you. They don't want to hear from you.

No nothing. No neonatal care, no day care, no head start, no school lunch, no food stamps, no welfare, no nothing. If you're preborn, you're fine; if you're preschool, you're fucked.

Yes, I know it's unoriginal and lazy, shaddup.

Preborn, you're fine. Preschool, you're fucked.

This vid feels relevant. For those of you who can't watch the whole thing, skip to 50:43 mark.

Let me be honest here and say that I really hate drags, mostly because of my (admittedly a bit stuffy) personal taste and I also hate the likes of clowns, mimes, kabukis, etc. But goddamn, never, never have I once found them to be an actual threat to, well, anyone including children.

I find it really disturbing how the same crowd that rants about protecting children from these "drag groomers" seem to have no problem whatsoever with law enforcement officers and religious leaders actually raping children and getting away with a slap on the wrist or just scot-free.

I was going to rant about how some places like Kansas even went ahead with enforcing genital checks and student athletes...but fortunately that bit is a bit of an exaggeration, according to fact checking from the likes of Reuters and AP.

Edited by dRoy on Jun 21st 2023 at 9:06:38 PM

Yeah drag has never been for me or something I liked in real life, but goddamn do I hate them being demonized by people, including Republicans who used to be friends with Drag Queens. Now they’re out to exterminate them including said friends.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Jun 21st 2023 at 5:10:34 AM

Conservatives can be such a...what's the expression that they really love to throw around whether it makes sense or not, oh yeah, bunch of easily triggered snowflakes.

The worst part is the unsurprising number of GOP members who have worn drag before. Fitting into the typical Every Accusation Is A Confession with their lot.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Jun 21st 2023 at 5:20:32 AM

Who are some examples, other than Santos? I gotta keep the list on hand for future debates.

I don’t remember all the lot off the top of my head(too many to count), but Rudy Giuliani has worn drag.

Nancy Mace wore a Tuxedo to the White House this very year while denying drag to her state.

And Madison Cawthorne.

I believe MTG boyfriend has worn drag too.

Those are the ones on the top of my head. I’ve mentioned others in the Politics Thread awhile back.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Jun 21st 2023 at 5:26:20 AM

On the subject of drag queens, this clip from Ghost Stories (official!) Gag Dub has aged really well:

Although slightly less relevant, so is this one:

These came out in 2005, btw.

Edited by dRoy on Jun 22nd 2023 at 10:54:53 PM

Too bad like 99% of the rest of the dub aged like warm milk.

Can't deny that.

eh

Some of it hasn't aged well, but there's some good stuff in there.

Momoko is a riot.

Edited by kkhohoho on Jun 23rd 2023 at 7:37:50 AM

Highly arguable, if you're fine with edgy comedy a lot of it has aged well.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Jun 23rd 2023 at 7:36:06 AM

It's more that, regardless of how okay or not the jokes are, most of them are rather poorly paced and go on for much longer than they need to. Doing a gag dub is really, really hard, especially for a show that went on for 20 episodes, and the result is a lot of jokes that worked once repeatedly coming back and making less of an impact each time and a bunch of jokes that just overstay their welcome by quite a bit. Plus the jokes that just straight up aren't okay.

and that's before getting into stuff like how the behind the scenes story about why it's a gag dub is suspicious as hell and doesn't actually make sense

There are some disturbing and quite frankly messed up stories about minors participating in drag shows at clubs, but those are fringe minority cases. Republicans are, as Republicans are wont to do, blowing this whole thing vastly out of proportion. Drag performers going to libraries and such are no different than any other kind of performer putting on a show for kids. No one gets mad if a clown or a magician entertains children for an hour, but it's suddenly a massive issue if that performer has falsies and a dress on.

And 100% these kinds of people need to clean house on their own members before speaking out about other communities. What's the saying, don't point out the speck in your neighbour's eye when you have a log in yours? But calling out evangelicals or beauty pageant runners out on their disgusting behaviour doesn't pay the bills, I guess.

Edited by PhiSat on Jun 23rd 2023 at 10:50:39 AM

I might consider listening to the people shrieking about drag if they weren't so obviously in favour of child marriage.