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Discussion of religion in the context of LGBTQ+ rights is only allowed in the LGBTQ+ Rights and Religion Thread.

Discussion of religion in any other context is off topic in all of the "LGBTQ+ rights..." threads.

Attempting to bait others into bringing up religion is also not allowed.

Edited by Mrph1 on Dec 1st 2023 at 6:53:59 PM

Morgikit Mikon :3 from War Drobe, Spare Oom Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Mikon :3
#9301: Mar 21st 2013 at 10:57:50 PM

I think Chambliss has a valid point. This is a free country. We have the right to try and prevent others from enjoying the things we personally dislike. Personally, I don't care for sports. Therefore we should ban them.

kay4today Princess Ymir's knightess from Austria Since: Jan, 2011
Princess Ymir's knightess
#9302: Mar 21st 2013 at 11:22:15 PM

Sound logic, Morgi, but the fact that you're into the same sex means your opinions are inferior to the opinions of people who aren't!

edited 21st Mar '13 11:23:14 PM by kay4today

joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
Happy New Year!
#9303: Mar 21st 2013 at 11:42:14 PM

Ten bucks says his wife turns out to be lesbian.

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Wildcard Since: Jun, 2012
#9304: Mar 22nd 2013 at 4:42:27 AM

That quip said seriously was pretty stupid. "I'm not going to marry one." If you honestly believe that there going to force you into it then you need to educate yourself on this issue more. I'm glad approval of same-sex marriage is becoming more widespread in the government though. Even John Mc Cain's family approve of it.

edited 22nd Mar '13 4:47:34 AM by Wildcard

kay4today Princess Ymir's knightess from Austria Since: Jan, 2011
Princess Ymir's knightess
#9305: Mar 22nd 2013 at 6:32:10 AM

I think it's more "I'm never gonna marry one of the same sex, so why should I care?"; which admittedly is still a dick move, but not ridiculously dumb.

Wildcard Since: Jun, 2012
#9306: Mar 22nd 2013 at 6:34:18 AM

[up]Perhaps so. I read the article and it doesn't show much from him after that quip. So I can't really tell. Either way your right it is a dick move.

BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#9307: Mar 22nd 2013 at 6:45:30 AM

Stopping gay discrimination is the same as encouraging religious discrimination ... somehow I'm not buying this argument.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
kay4today Princess Ymir's knightess from Austria Since: Jan, 2011
Princess Ymir's knightess
#9309: Mar 22nd 2013 at 6:48:49 AM

[up][up] If I could, I'd post that "You just went full retard" picture.

... For the people who make these nonsensical arguments, of course. Not you. xD

edited 22nd Mar '13 6:49:35 AM by kay4today

LMage Since: May, 2011
#9311: Mar 22nd 2013 at 6:54:40 AM

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Gay Conversion is likely finished for the time being. I imagine somewhere down the line some self-hating gay or lesbian will sue for it, but currently the mass of cautionary tales about people forced to go through conversion treatment is going to keep any sane homosexual individual miles away from the issue, even self hating ones.

I'm more concerned about Christie's views on the issue and gay rights in general. Given the Republicans to vote in lock step, if we get a Republican President (which given past trends might be frighteningly likely) he could easily undo recent work in the gay rights sphere..

Christie has a fair shoot at getting elected if he runs as a moderet. But middle of the road isn't necessarily right, just in the middle. (I'm looking at you "3/4ths compromise")

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Heaven forbid that those innocent Christians be forced to keep their opinions to themselves on how other people live.

edited 22nd Mar '13 6:58:54 AM by LMage

kay4today Princess Ymir's knightess from Austria Since: Jan, 2011
Princess Ymir's knightess
#9313: Mar 22nd 2013 at 6:57:56 AM

@Starship

Wut. So it's oppressive that you aren't allowed to tell teh gayz that you don't approve of their gayness for no reason? :C

Wildcard Since: Jun, 2012
#9314: Mar 22nd 2013 at 6:59:21 AM

What's homosexuality in the workplace got to do with crossdressing?

Wildcard Since: Jun, 2012
#9316: Mar 22nd 2013 at 7:10:19 AM

Max I'd support this point of view more if we didn't do it for everything else as well. If you post a racist rant on facebook or pictures of you doing something your work boss doesn't care for that doesn't necessarily harm others, (like getting drunk) your probably gonna get fired from your job for presenting a bad impression of the workplace.

kay4today Princess Ymir's knightess from Austria Since: Jan, 2011
Princess Ymir's knightess
#9317: Mar 22nd 2013 at 7:10:29 AM

Right, today I'm gonna go to my colleague and tell him I really don't approve that he's dating a black girl.

I'm sure there will be no consequences at all!

[up][up] Wow, persecution complex much? You keep bringing that "it's only bad if it happens to a LGBT person" crap up, despite no one saying anything like it.

edited 22nd Mar '13 7:11:41 AM by kay4today

Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#9318: Mar 22nd 2013 at 7:12:31 AM

[up]x4 Trans Equals Gay

edited 22nd Mar '13 7:12:45 AM by Medinoc

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
LMage Since: May, 2011
#9319: Mar 22nd 2013 at 7:15:16 AM

@Starship

Here's the thing, my being gay and engaged to a man has nothing to do with my work performance and doesn't affect anyone or anything at the workplace. A co worker walking up and telling me that I'm going to hell because I'm gay creates a hostile and homophobic workplace.

If Christians have an issue with me, that's is soundly their problem. They don't have the right to to create a hostile work environment over it. How I live my life is no one's business but mine.

kay4today Princess Ymir's knightess from Austria Since: Jan, 2011
Princess Ymir's knightess
#9321: Mar 22nd 2013 at 7:19:16 AM

[up] Except it applies to, for example, race as well, not just sexuality.

kay4today Princess Ymir's knightess from Austria Since: Jan, 2011
Princess Ymir's knightess
#9323: Mar 22nd 2013 at 7:23:30 AM

And the point I'm making is that you should stop saying "only when the person is LGBT", because it's inaccurate. >:P

Wildcard Since: Jun, 2012
#9325: Mar 22nd 2013 at 7:23:56 AM

@Medinoc: Well that is a stupid point of view for the writer to take.

@Starship: I don't know. On the one I don't like the idea that my boss could fire me if I was drunk and said stupid things. On the other hand I'd want the employers to be able to fire a teacher who goes on facebook who literally says he hates kids every day he has off. Freedom of speech shouldn't mean freedom of consequences. How can we find a balance?

edited 22nd Mar '13 7:27:36 AM by Wildcard


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