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Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#226: Sep 11th 2013 at 10:37:36 AM

One version has them all thinking she was dead, another version has the letter get lost (making the story even stupider) and a third version has the kingdom trying to avoid her notice. Incidentally, that's the version where the Prince's mom is inexplicably half-ogre. And irredeemably evil, but the Prince himself is just fine.

When I read that, it just made me wonder "did the ogres look just like humans? Or does Sleeping Beauty have a thing for big green guys?"

It also makes you wonder about the Prince's father too.

Admittedly, once you get past the initial set-up, almost every single version of Sleeping Beauty has something really creepy and twisted about it.

edited 11th Sep '13 10:39:49 AM by Zendervai

Mort08 Pirate AND writer! from Oklahoma Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#227: Sep 11th 2013 at 11:10:45 AM

I personally find Sun, Moon, and Talia the worst. Our summary of it has some funny moments, though.

why not start working on it right now?

I could set up a doc in Google Drive for us to play with. I've been brainstorming all afternoon, and I think I have a good framework to start with.

edited 11th Sep '13 12:52:25 PM by Mort08

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Sharysa Since: Jan, 2001
#228: Sep 11th 2013 at 6:51:27 PM

I would very much like that.

Also, my headcanon is that "ogre" was, like "giant," a generic word for "humanoid beings who range from monstrous to passing-for-human," and gradually it morphed into "gargantuan (sometimes green) humanoids."

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#229: Sep 11th 2013 at 7:15:13 PM

Here we go! I don't know if anyone can comment, but I made it so anyone can edit.

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Vox Since: Dec, 2010
#230: Sep 11th 2013 at 7:17:52 PM

RE pets not named in movies: Did you know that Frollo's horse was called Snowball?

kalel94 Rascal King from Dragonstone Since: Feb, 2011
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#231: Sep 11th 2013 at 7:19:18 PM

[up][up]What sorcery is this?!

edited 11th Sep '13 7:19:29 PM by kalel94

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Mort08 Pirate AND writer! from Oklahoma Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#233: Sep 11th 2013 at 8:10:53 PM

[up][up][up] ... that's kind of disappointing, actually. I hope it wasn't Frollo himself who named him...

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#234: Sep 11th 2013 at 8:13:43 PM

[up] The writers on the DVD commentary mentioned it.

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swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#236: Sep 11th 2013 at 10:14:30 PM

In the original Grimm tale, she simply didn't get an invite because there were only 12 golden plates for the 13 fairies. But does it really matter? The movie is all about symbolism. The fight of the good against the evil, the power of love which will defeat even the darkest curse. Maleficent didn't turn up at the feast because she was really hurt about not being invited, she turned up because she loves to make trouble. The same way she ruined Flora's flowers every year.

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#237: Sep 12th 2013 at 6:29:34 AM

I'm pretty sure Flora was just bullshitting us. She really sucks at growing flowers, so she blames Maleficent for ruining them.

The last hurrah? Nah, I'd do it again.
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#238: Sep 12th 2013 at 8:35:24 AM

[up] The sad thing is that I can see this movie pulling something like that.

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#239: Sep 12th 2013 at 10:12:58 AM

I'd like to see them mess with this.

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Mort08 Pirate AND writer! from Oklahoma Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#240: Sep 12th 2013 at 11:56:38 AM

They'll either get rid of it or twist it into a "boo-hoo, she's fallen so far and lost her faith in twoo luv" moment.

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Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#241: Sep 12th 2013 at 2:48:56 PM

If the producer was a mad genius all this stuff about being a heartbroken schoolgirl would be a smokescreen that lasts up until the first teaser reveal Maleficent acting like the psychotic sorceress we all know and love.

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#243: Sep 12th 2013 at 9:05:59 PM

Put my two cents into the doc. Basically: Lesbian subtext is going to be too much like WICKED, and I definitely like the Start of Darkness idea.

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#245: Sep 16th 2013 at 4:46:54 PM

on another note, i've decided to watch the old Disney movie again, as a sort of "refresher course."

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#246: Sep 16th 2013 at 6:51:53 PM

I'm watching it properly for the first time. Good fun. grin

I kind of wish they would recreate the Drunken Song and the fight scene afterwards in live-action. That just might make the whole thing worth watching. But they won't. sad

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#247: Sep 16th 2013 at 6:55:56 PM

you know what i find amazing? that the animation for this movie still holds up after 54 years.

edited 16th Sep '13 6:56:16 PM by crimsonstorm15

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Mort08 Pirate AND writer! from Oklahoma Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#248: Sep 16th 2013 at 6:59:54 PM

I know, right? This one just seems to exist in a world that the other Disney movies don't. I really hope they can do justice to the visuals instead of just going for "generic action fantasy." I want Dragon!Maleficent to actually look the way she did in animation form, with the glowing green eyes and everything.

edited 16th Sep '13 7:01:22 PM by Mort08

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#249: Sep 17th 2013 at 12:16:40 AM

The animation is truly unique...there is no other movie like this, every single frame is like a moving picture, which is even more impressive when you consider that the whole thing is hand-drawn. It is the main reason why this is my favourite Disney movie, nobody will ever spend the money to do something like this again, and with the classic music, it is even more timeless than Disney movies are either way. Plus, there aren't really many movies out there in which the majority of the cast is female and the main heroines are three old ladies. It is one of the reasons I'm so anxious about Maleficent, I bet the only thing this movie will achieve is to destroy the original characters.

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