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Well, Cygan was wondering why there wasn't one, so I made it. I guess we can talk about queer stuff. :3

(*LGBTQ+ Solidarity huggles*)

Oh, and if you're wondering, non-queer folks are welcome too.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Dec 1st 2023 at 12:49:01 PM

Sixthhokage1 Since: Feb, 2013
#147501: Aug 27th 2014 at 1:49:44 PM

As a Christian, my priority is what Yeshua ben Nazareth, or Jesus Christ taught. That is love and acceptance. In the words of Relient K:

Jesus loved the outcasts
He loves the ones the world just loves to hate
And as long as there's a Heaven
There'll be a failure to excommunicate

edited 27th Aug '14 1:50:50 PM by Sixthhokage1

TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
#147502: Aug 27th 2014 at 1:51:13 PM

Yeah, I generally open with "even if it is a sin, our rulesonly apply to practicing Christians. We are not the law of the land. The law of the land forbids establishment of religion and we are called to make disciples, not nations."

Fresh-eyed movie blog
Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#147503: Aug 27th 2014 at 2:04:02 PM

As long as one acts with what they believe to be approval of the Heavens behind their actions, they will be certain that they and they alone know the correct set of actions and all who dare disagree with them, no matter how solid their proof, is wrong and evil by virtue of disagreeing with them, and thus, their idea of divinity. Religion in the modern world has, overall, been an extremely regressive force because it allows bigots to claim an absolute authority over morality, regardless of how reasonable their premises are or are not.

I'm not trying to bully Christians or anyone else who follows and strongly believes in a religion or faith, but religion is almost always a component of modern sexual bigotry and lack of such faith does not prevent one from working towards a future where truth, not assumptions, form the basis of law.

edited 27th Aug '14 2:04:18 PM by Pulse

I sure said that!
TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
#147504: Aug 27th 2014 at 2:09:33 PM

Science is a machine for correcting misconceptions of the world to fit observed truth. I apply a scientific perspective to my religion, correcting my interpretations to fit observed truths about how society works.

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Kesagake from Tahlequah, OK Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#147505: Aug 27th 2014 at 2:49:55 PM

Also, I may be mistaken, but aren't people's religious rights supposed to end when they begin to infringe on other people's civil rights?

I would also like to note that besides saying this in front of me (I'm only out as pan/bi to a select few people at the moment, I'm trying to be almost completely out over the next couple of months), they also said this in front of a student who is openly a lesbian. They're not exactly a sensitive bunch.

edited 27th Aug '14 2:50:23 PM by Kesagake

TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
#147506: Aug 27th 2014 at 2:56:52 PM

According to the religious right, the civil rights of others is infringing on their own religious freedoms. Because evangelism means making everyone live up to your own standards to them.

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Kesagake from Tahlequah, OK Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#147507: Aug 27th 2014 at 3:05:40 PM

True, true; still, I'd say it's a rather good point in an argument, since pretty much any but the most zealous of Christians wouldn't just come out and say that.

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#147508: Aug 27th 2014 at 3:14:20 PM

What I just can't wrap my head around is why people have "standards" about people being attracted to other people of the same sex.

It just doesn't make any sense.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
kegisak Element of Class Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Element of Class
#147509: Aug 27th 2014 at 3:16:04 PM

People have a somewhat sad tendency to confuse Evangelism and Missionaryism for bullying and Fascism.

Birthright: an original web novel about Dragons, the Burdens of Leadership, and Mangoes.
Kesagake from Tahlequah, OK Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#147510: Aug 27th 2014 at 3:30:14 PM

So I'm going to be coming out to one of my close friends tomorrow; I'm kinda nervous about what she's going to think.

ElectricNova Since: Jun, 2012
#147511: Aug 27th 2014 at 3:32:07 PM

@Kegisak

But aren't those essentially the same things? grin

kegisak Element of Class Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Element of Class
#147512: Aug 27th 2014 at 3:38:08 PM

Not if you do it the (apparently) Scottish way! Just kinda set up and put out the offer, and be cool enough that people will check it out to see what's up.

[up][up]Best of luck! Does she seem like she might be open to it?

edited 27th Aug '14 3:38:37 PM by kegisak

Birthright: an original web novel about Dragons, the Burdens of Leadership, and Mangoes.
Kesagake from Tahlequah, OK Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#147513: Aug 27th 2014 at 3:44:33 PM

I think she will be; she's been one of my best friends since last year, so I really hope it doesn't drive her away.

TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
#147514: Aug 27th 2014 at 4:02:54 PM

Oh you don't even have to be that reserved (though I think it's best if you are). It's possible to actively say "this is a thing you should try" without being a bully about it.

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JHM Apparition in the Woods from Niemandswasser Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Hounds of love are hunting
Apparition in the Woods
#147515: Aug 27th 2014 at 4:06:11 PM

To be honest, if she's an open person, I expect that it's likely that you'll get the response that one of my best friends gave me: "What? Why didn't you tell me sooner?!"

I'll hide your name inside a word and paint your eyes with false perception.
Kesagake from Tahlequah, OK Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#147516: Aug 27th 2014 at 4:14:57 PM

@JHM: I'm really hoping that's what'll happen. I'd hate to lose a good friend just because I'm telling her the truth.

Rosvo1 Since: Aug, 2009
#147518: Aug 27th 2014 at 4:58:14 PM

What exactly is "gender-critical"?

inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#147519: Aug 27th 2014 at 5:04:44 PM

A cursory glance through horribly-written blog posts indicates that gender-critical theory suggests that trans women don't... exist? I'm not quite sure here, I can barely read this shit. Its full of pseudobabble and faux-intellectual grandstanding.

I am unsure what this means.

Sixthhokage1 Since: Feb, 2013
#147520: Aug 27th 2014 at 5:10:54 PM

Basically, the idea that gender as a whole is a social construction that solely exists to oppress women. It's the label that TERFs use for themselves.

inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#147521: Aug 27th 2014 at 5:11:24 PM

So... this is something I sardonically mock?

RatherRandomRachel "Just as planned." from Somewhere underground. Since: Sep, 2013
"Just as planned."
#147522: Aug 27th 2014 at 5:15:18 PM

Although some who label themselves as gender-critical aren't themselves TER Fs - but they're in the minority of those who use it, often they criticize gender as a whole except as identity, which they agree exists and does have its own undefinable but definite existence. Gender as identity to them is much like art in that it can be recognised but is hard to define, it's everything else they criticize.

"Did you expect somebody else?"
TAPETRVE from The city of Vlurxtrznbnaxl Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
#147523: Aug 27th 2014 at 6:11:41 PM

If anyone would know about pseudo-intellectual grandstanding, it's you, Hopey evil grin .

Fear the cinnamon sugar swirl. By the Gods, fear it, Laurence.
JHM Apparition in the Woods from Niemandswasser Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Hounds of love are hunting
Apparition in the Woods
#147524: Aug 27th 2014 at 6:34:02 PM

[up][up] I have a genderqueer friend who takes a very similar stance, but he doesn't call himself that.

I'll hide your name inside a word and paint your eyes with false perception.
Darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#147525: Aug 27th 2014 at 7:48:13 PM

@Keg. Thanks, I appreciate the support. I think that I'm supportive of the concept and hope to be open-minded and responsive, so I'll say yes for now.


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