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My newspaper advisor (an English teacher) is reading the book right now. She HATES the writing style.
I'm actually curious how much of it is a prose issue. I always thought the issue was the fact that the story was told from the perspective of Katniss, a character who, despite the well-characterization of the others, is bland, judgemental, and overall cliche.
....unless that still counts as a prose issue, then fine.
It is, in fact, still a prose issue, because in addition to all that, her internal monologue is dull, almost as if her extreme closed-off-ness extended inwards to her own mind.
Figured as much.
Anyway, once again, thank GOD the movie didn't have Katniss narrating. I would've been pounding my head against the wall after the first 20 minutes no matter who was casted. The last thing this movie needed was to get Anvilicious on my ass (which, come to think of it, would explain why my friend loves the series so much).
"why did the producer make all the good characters black smh"
The hell?! Seriously???
Yeah, even though Rue and Thresh are described as such in the books. I'm.. astounded. Also, a couple of critics have criticised Jennifer Lawrence for being too curvy or having too much baby fat to play Katniss convincingly. As I said earlier, astounded.
edited 29th Mar '12 1:52:59 PM by Pattyunknown
In re: Katnisss I can KIND of see where they where coming from given that she was supposed to be a starvation victim, but still.
That's the sort of thing that should be taken care of via body make-up or Dyeing for Your Art, though, they shouldn't have gone out of their way to cast one of the many Hollywood actresses with ribs showing.
edited 29th Mar '12 2:13:05 PM by Wackd
Yeah, I think that goes under Pragmatic Adaptation in that it's pretty hard to find someone who looks starving and is still healthy. Also they would probably run into the opposite problem with critics saying the actress is promoting warped beauty ideals.
Damned if they did, damned if they didn't.
She made a pretty piss poor starvation victim in the book, though, so, well.. I mean, between the milk goat, the hunting, and the rations/whateverthefuck you want to call the sludge she had enough stored to produce boobs that could shrink during the games.
edited 29th Mar '12 3:35:48 PM by Bur
I'm pretty sure a point is made in the book that, while they're by no means well off, the Everdeens are not starving. Most of the mentions of food in District 12 are in comparison to the richer Districts.
Correction, there are not starving anymore, but they where for a long while.
It's been 5 years since things looked hopeless for them. Giving Katniss let's say a year to really get the hang of hunting/to meet Gale, and maybe another six months for them to really start working as a team (I think that's what she said), that still leaves them with three and a half years where they've been doing alright.
There's a lot of examples of actors and actresses doing horrible, or at least drastic, things to their bodies (gaining loads of weight, losing loads of weight, bulking up and then immediately losing the muscle) to look realistic for parts, but I think that's a bit much to ask of an actress Lawrence's age - and I agree, she's not supposed to be starving at the start of the book.
Honestly, getting perfect casting match the level of Rorschach / Jackie Earle Haley is so rare that I just don't worry about pitched perfect casting.
A few days ago, some of my coworkers were complaining and felt that Josh Hutcherson was a complete miscast because apparently he is not as tall as Peeta was in the books.
Do they describe Peeta's height in the book? I don't recall anything other than him being strong.
I don't think Katniss' height is given in the book, for that matter.
No, it's not really. I know that Katniss is supposed to have a quite small frame, likely pushing her on the short side, and Peeta's only really described as "broad" if I recall correctly.
Having seen it. Well it left me satisfied, but not really hungry for more. *ahem*
Its an ok film. The world building opening scene could have done with a bit more showing *why* they were deprived. The scene with the selection of challengers, is rather a cold scene for something so important. But once we hit the district the film gets a bit more life, but its off to the games quickly before properly developing some of the key players.
Jennifer Lawrence has to be able to carry the film and she does mostly through her own charisma. In lesser hands Katniss could come across as very stuck up, rather than stoic She is ably supported by key players, Some of whom are better than others. Her love story with Peeta however never quite comes off though. But that may be the point.
One thing which did irk me was alot of mentioning of the importance of sponsors in the game and being able to survive the elements and preventing dehydration. Neither of which came into play once the game starts. Extended edition?
The game itself is an odd one, we never get a great sense of scale of the fight and the shaky cam opening is disorientating, so the opening bloodbath never hits home. The film meanders and Katniss never really feels in danger. Her sub-plot with a younger member of an opposing team is paint by numbers. Her scenes with Peeta drag, but the film gains momentum with the closing fight with Cato, but that's quickly over and the ending is rushed.
Competently shot and executed, it never tries for anything truly special. Its worthwhile of your time but don't go in for a Five star movie.
On an audience note, some poor woman let out a very audible 'Ahhhh' when Peeta declared his love for Katniss in his interview. The rest of the audience found this hilarious, and any time any emotional scene came up with the pair, the audience was rolling in the aisles.
edited 30th Mar '12 11:38:51 AM by korpse_man
Yeah, the importance of finding water and general survival inside the arena was emphasised much more in the books than it was in the film, as was the cues of sponsors' gifts being sent by Haymitch. But I guess it's a little difficult to portray dehydration in the film when there's already so much to condense down.
I can forgive cutting down a lot of that. The movie is already almost two and a half hours long, those aren't easy situations to portray on film, and it could easily have led to the movie stealing Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Part 1's nickname of "Camping: The Movie".
edited 30th Mar '12 12:30:18 PM by BadWolf21
Good movie, and they stayed REALLY close to the book, so that was cool. That bow made a weird sound, though.
Actually they did show the sponsors. Remember when Haymitch talks to a woman to get her to send Katniss the burn cream?
Anyway, the main thing that bothered me about the movie was the constant shaky cam and closeups. Someone needs to give District 12 a tripod. Other than that it's all right.
It surprises me that people didn't like the narration in the books, and are glad it wasn't it the movie. The narration was one of the strongest parts of the book, and it does an excellent job of fully conveying the implications of all of the characters actions, as well as background on the world. And if it seems a little heartless, that is because the character is that way, and it accurately conveys the way she thinks.
Personally I think the movie could really have used the narration in order to fill in all the little details, implications, and pieces of background information that seemed to be missing. Compared to the books there seemed to be a lot more "dead air" where there was running or climbing, but not much happening. These scenes could have been made more interesting if narration was going over them. With narration they could also have made better use of the survival elements, as they were never fully explained in the film. It could also have made the dehydration bit at the beginning interesting enough to throw in.
I found the Movie entertaining enough. It just seemed sort of empty without all the information and analysis overlaying the action and proving characterization , and the commentators were a poor substitute. Also I found it odd that they ended the movie right before the emotional payoff of Ellie revealing that the love had all been act.
edited 6th Apr '12 10:56:07 PM by tiaxrulesall
Watched it a week ago.
It was pretty good, they handled everything well and didn't make the romancey biuts annoying.
My only problems were shaky cam and the fact Effie's name was never uttered.
The one big difference is that Peeta seemed aware throughout that Katniss was play-acting being in love with him, whereas in the book he believed her feelings were genuine. That removes a lot of the emotional punch, but I suppose the filmmakers though it would also make Katniss more sympathetic, since she's pretty self-centred (well, self-and-family-centred) in the book.
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