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TParadox Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
May 25th 2011 at 5:08:42 PM

I think I understand the reasoning behind "tabs on top." It doesn't help old users a whole lot, but it simplifies the interface paradigm a little bit when all of the controls that affect the content of the tab (address bar, reload, bookmark bar, etc) are inside that tab.

Removing the toolbar and status bar are about squeezing every bit of screen real estate they can for use in the page area itself. This is marginally helpful.

I think if we'd started out with these ideas and then were forced to use the old design, we'd be screaming louder about it than this way.

Fresh-eyed movie blog
May 25th 2011 at 10:09:14 PM

I stopped using Firefox when they put so much junk into it that it started slowing stuff down. I have been partying with Chrome ever since it came out.

I'm goin to have to look at FF again if it's simpler.

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Morven Nemesis from Seattle, WA, USA
Nemesis
May 26th 2011 at 5:16:21 PM

Trying Chrome after FF 3 felt like driving a Ferrari after a delivery truck. That experience has made me not want to go back to it.

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TParadox Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
May 26th 2011 at 8:29:24 PM

What version was Firefox in when Chrome came out? Like, 2.8? 3.0? Whatever it was, it was the absolute worst version I've seen. Insane memory leak even by FF standards, crashed multiple times a day. I think it contributed significantly to Chrome adoption.

Fresh-eyed movie blog
Galeros Slay foes with bow and arrow
Slay foes with bow and arrow
Jun 23rd 2011 at 5:03:17 PM

Now Firefox 5 is out.

DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven
Jun 23rd 2011 at 5:40:54 PM

@Paradox: I have trouble with 4 crashing too. My desktop is about as powerful as my little netbook, though.

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TParadox Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Jun 23rd 2011 at 6:35:33 PM

Was every change in FF 5 backend? The "thanks for updating" page only listed FF 4 frontend stuff.

If it was just backend, it should have been a .5 release, like 3.5 was. Are they trying to beat Chrome's numbers in the teens?

Fresh-eyed movie blog
Galeros Slay foes with bow and arrow
Slay foes with bow and arrow
Jun 23rd 2011 at 7:07:44 PM

Are they trying to beat Chrome's numbers in the teens?

I have begun to wonder the same thing.

Funnyguts Things make people happy from French Bread!
Things make people happy
Jun 23rd 2011 at 8:57:59 PM

^^The main changes were better CSS and other rendering, and a few other tweaks that generally make it faster. The only real feature I've noticed is that closing a tab now works like Chrome, not changing the size of each tab until you move your mouse away from the tab.

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CentralAvenue Her Royal Highness from my imagination
Her Royal Highness
Jun 24th 2011 at 8:55:13 PM

Are they trying to beat Chrome's numbers in the teens?
I think they've all but explicitly stated that this is what they're doing with their new "rapid release" process.

It seems dumb to me—I always hated Chrome's version number inflation. (Not to mention all the extensions that break because they're stated to be compatible with "4.x", even though there are barely any changes in "5.x")

And yes, from what I can tell, all the changes are backend. Wikipedia even says "the GUI has not been changed".

edited 24th Jun '11 8:56:03 PM by CentralAvenue

Reality has never been an obstacle for me before!!
RocketDude Face Time from AZ, United States
Face Time
Jun 29th 2011 at 3:20:34 PM

And Firefox 5 broke most of the cool add-ons I use, like Download Accelerator Plus, Speedbit Video Downloader and McAfee SiteAdvisor.

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TParadox Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Jun 29th 2011 at 3:29:20 PM

I have a lot of extensions, and none of them broke when I went to FF5. Though apparently it was out for a few weeks before I got it, because they're releasing so fast we're getting blueshift.

edited 29th Jun '11 3:29:35 PM by TParadox

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Funnyguts Things make people happy from French Bread!
Things make people happy
Jun 29th 2011 at 5:00:45 PM

^^^There actually was at least one GUI change to 5: Tabs will not expand after you close one, until you move your mouse away from the tab bar. This means you can close a bunch of tabs in a row without ever moving your mouse, assuming you start at the leftmost one.

As for getting addons to work after an upgrade, Addon Compatibility Reporter is your friend.

edited 29th Jun '11 5:02:37 PM by Funnyguts

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TParadox Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Jun 29th 2011 at 5:31:38 PM

I went a little crazy with Addon Compatibility Reporter from version 3 to version 4, and managed to get Firefox to crash on launch so badly I couldn't even get it fixed in safe mode, and had to completely uninstall/reinstall.

Fresh-eyed movie blog
RocketDude Face Time from AZ, United States
Face Time
Jul 1st 2011 at 6:58:00 AM

Yeah, Firefox (or Mozilla) disables add-ons for a reason.

In the case of SiteAdvisor, it apparently caused too many crashes with 5.

edited 1st Jul '11 6:58:18 AM by RocketDude

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CentralAvenue Her Royal Highness from my imagination
Her Royal Highness
Jul 1st 2011 at 11:35:21 PM

There actually was at least one GUI change to 5: Tabs will not expand after you close one, until you move your mouse away from the tab bar.
Huh, I thought I noticed that once or twice, but I couldn't figure out how to do it again, so I assumed my mind was playing tricks on me.

(It apparently doesn't do it when you're closing the last tab on the right, which is what I kept trying)

Reality has never been an obstacle for me before!!
Blurring One just might from inside the box everyone is thinking outside of.
One just might
Jul 12th 2011 at 12:03:34 AM

I never had opened that much tabs to notice anyway. Anyway, version 5 while freezes less than version 4, it is still too often for my taste.

edited 12th Jul '11 12:03:45 AM by Blurring

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deuxhero Micromastophile from FL-24
Micromastophile
Aug 15th 2011 at 10:34:14 AM

Firefox 4 never worked for me in the literal sense. None of the add ons functioned, and new ones I installed would just disappear when the mandatory restart happened.

Galeros Slay foes with bow and arrow
Slay foes with bow and arrow
Aug 16th 2011 at 9:11:15 AM

Firefox 6 is now out!

RocketDude Face Time from AZ, United States
Face Time
Aug 16th 2011 at 5:14:25 PM

What, seriously? Have they thrown out version numbering out the window?

Tumblr | "Hipsters: the most dangerous gang in the US." - Pacific Mackerel
TParadox Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Aug 16th 2011 at 6:54:39 PM

Firefox 5 was around for what, two months? Three? They're just going really fast.

Fresh-eyed movie blog
Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
RocketDude Face Time from AZ, United States
Face Time
Aug 16th 2011 at 9:39:26 PM

I dunno, but there's been some stuff moved around in the History tabs and such.

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Blurring One just might from inside the box everyone is thinking outside of.
One just might
Aug 17th 2011 at 10:04:22 PM

Personally, the only thing I notice is that FF 6 does freeze less. Still do just less.

edited 17th Aug '11 10:04:48 PM by Blurring

If you throw your lunchbox at a Bigfoot, the Bigfoot might pick it up and then run away with it.
TParadox Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Aug 17th 2011 at 11:05:15 PM

Finally let it install FF 6 today. Mandatory domain highlighting? Lolno, I'm phishing savvy. I don't think I've ever gotten into about:config so fast on a new install.

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