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Cider The Final ECW Champion from Not New York Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
The Final ECW Champion
May 10th 2011 at 8:26:14 PM

If anyone can tell what the advantage to upgrading is, I'd like to hear it. Even the basic tool bar is gone. No internet options, not even edit.

Modified Ura-nage, Torture Rack
Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
May 10th 2011 at 8:46:24 PM

They're both still there, they just have to be turned on through the rightclick menu. Unfortunately, minimalism is in right now. I blame Apple.

Fight smart, not fair.
May 10th 2011 at 8:50:04 PM

Seriously, though, the "no menu bar" fad is incredibly irksome. It does nothing but make the UI significantly more frustrating than it needs to be.

TParadox Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
May 10th 2011 at 9:15:45 PM

*raises hand*

I like the new menu button. At least it's in a sensible place, unlike with Chrome's menu button. As far as I know, Internet Explorer doesn't have any way to access menus other than activating the menu bar. [Citation Needed]

...I'll just... go now.

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DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven
May 10th 2011 at 9:25:00 PM

I like it (but prefer Chrome) for my netbook, since it has a tiny-ass screen. The less toolbars, the more screen space.

Then again, I don't really use toolbars that much to begin with. Hotkeys and keyboard shortcuts are far more efficient.

"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian
TParadox Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
May 10th 2011 at 9:29:59 PM

Also Firefox's tabs seem like they waste less space than Chrome's, so I'm more amenable to them moving to the top.

Most apps that sat in the taskbar have relocated to other parts of the browser, and the popup bar thing grew on me immensely after spending a few weeks with a FF 4 beta release that didn't have the popup yet.

Fresh-eyed movie blog
May 10th 2011 at 9:40:18 PM

I use the keyboard most of the time, so the extra screen space is quite appreciated.

Cider The Final ECW Champion from Not New York Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
The Final ECW Champion
May 10th 2011 at 10:30:00 PM

I liked version three's popup windows better too, not nearly as condescending. Weird when no dit box, remember what key for every control combo. No labeled options right there, look in the folder. The worst is the password one. I liked it better when it was something I didn't even notice.

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HungryJoe Gristknife from Under the Tree
Gristknife
May 11th 2011 at 8:06:49 AM

"Fox Two! Fox Two!"

"Missile Away."

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DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven
May 11th 2011 at 8:39:30 AM

I also have an ancient desktop (as in, it's from the days before multi-core processors) and Firefox had this irritating tendency to crash and bring the entire system to a halt.

"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian
CentralAvenue Her Royal Highness from my imagination
Her Royal Highness
May 11th 2011 at 4:14:02 PM

Personally, I like having the menu bar hidden. The only menu I regularly used was Bookmarks, and there's now a Bookmarks button on the toolbar to open the Bookmarks bar. If I ever need something that's not available in the new Firefox menu, I can pop up the menu bar with the alt key, so why waste screen space on something I rarely use?

tangent

I also like that the appearance is updated, the not-transparent toolbar/menu bar/etc in Firefox 3.x made it look like something straight out of Windows XP, which made it feel "old" to me.

Reality has never been an obstacle for me before!!
IndirectActiveTransport You Give Me Fever from Chicago Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
You Give Me Fever
May 12th 2011 at 7:52:41 AM

You say "old" like a bad thing. Being old didn't make Vista better than XP...wait why am I on the old folks home?

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pvtnum11 OMG NO NOSECONES from Kerbin low orbit Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
OMG NO NOSECONES
May 12th 2011 at 12:14:35 PM

Heh, Vista. I tweaked it until it acted and looked just like XP, which was just Windows 98 on steroids.

My wife uses Fire Fox, I'll have to ask her what she thinks of the updated version. Probably something like: "I don't care unless Frontierville doesn't work."

Happiness is zero-gee with a sinus cold.
SilentReverence adopting kitteh from 3 tiles right 1 tile up
adopting kitteh
May 12th 2011 at 12:16:10 PM

>was better

That's the only problem I have with the thread title. Beyond that, yeah, FF 4 is mostly a rushed release (as it has been happening with other browsers a lot recently). Then again, coming from someone who still uses FF 1 from time to time...

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TParadox Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
May 12th 2011 at 1:55:19 PM

XP was a huge improvement because a lot of the issues of Windows came from trying to run it on top of DOS, and XP was the first consumer-oriented version to not use DOS.

Fresh-eyed movie blog
CentralAvenue Her Royal Highness from my imagination
Her Royal Highness
May 12th 2011 at 6:08:26 PM

You say "old" like a bad thing.
Well, I was talking strictly about its appearance.

I didn't like using an XP-looking app on my (then) shiny new Windows 7 laptop. The new Firefox at least has a more modern appearance.

Reality has never been an obstacle for me before!!
Blurring One just might from inside the box everyone is thinking outside of.
One just might
May 19th 2011 at 10:02:31 PM

My problem with FF4 is that it freezes like nobody's business. I play computer games and every time I ALT TAB to use FF 4 it freezes for several seconds. Version 4.0.1 is only marginally better. IE 9 is way better in this respect.

edited 19th May '11 10:03:27 PM by Blurring

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InverurieJones '80s TV Action Hero from North of the Wall. Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
'80s TV Action Hero
May 22nd 2011 at 2:30:22 AM

My toolbar is there, it's just all see-through and crap.

'All he needs is for somebody to throw handgrenades at him for the rest of his life...'
Funnyguts Things make people happy from French Bread!
Things make people happy
May 24th 2011 at 6:21:36 AM

I just upgraded to the Firefox 5 beta. Things seem to be a bit faster but that's the only change I've seen. I don't think I really like the 'let's release as many versions as possible' strategy...

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Galeros Slay foes with bow and arrow
Slay foes with bow and arrow
May 24th 2011 at 7:12:36 AM

Firefox 5?

Looked it up, looks like they really are trying to release a bunch of updates this year.

edited 24th May '11 7:15:41 AM by Galeros

TParadox Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
May 24th 2011 at 5:41:00 PM

I just upgraded to the Firefox 5 beta. ...I don't think I really like the 'let's release as many versions as possible' strategy...

Is there an addon to turn that off yet?

Fresh-eyed movie blog
Funnyguts Things make people happy from French Bread!
Things make people happy
May 24th 2011 at 10:10:04 PM

There's no point really. Right now almost all of the changes to FF are performance based, rather than interface based or things like that.

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Nohbody "In distress", my ass. from Somewhere in Dixie Relationship Status: Mu
"In distress", my ass.
May 24th 2011 at 11:21:05 PM

I find my performance is enhanced by not having to dig up extension updates (if even available) every time a new major or semi-major version of FF is released. 3.0.19 says "fuck all y'all". tongue

I tried v4, a while back, and was somewhat less than impressed, to put it mildly. Seemed too much "change for the sake of change", to me.

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Funnyguts Things make people happy from French Bread!
Things make people happy
May 25th 2011 at 5:18:44 AM

Great. I update to the beta for 5, and now I learn that the beta for 7 is out. Not gonna do it, I'm not that stupid.

,%,..@@@,.%,.@G,.@@,.% / Playing with animals.

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