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If anyone can tell what the advantage to upgrading is, I'd like to hear it. Even the basic tool bar is gone. No internet options, not even edit.
They're both still there, they just have to be turned on through the rightclick menu. Unfortunately, minimalism is in right now. I blame Apple.
Seriously, though, the "no menu bar" fad is incredibly irksome. It does nothing but make the UI significantly more frustrating than it needs to be.
I like the new menu button. At least it's in a sensible place, unlike with Chrome's menu button. As far as I know, Internet Explorer doesn't have any way to access menus other than activating the menu bar. [Citation Needed]
...I'll just... go now.
I like it (but prefer Chrome) for my netbook, since it has a tiny-ass screen. The less toolbars, the more screen space.
Then again, I don't really use toolbars that much to begin with. Hotkeys and keyboard shortcuts are far more efficient.
Also Firefox's tabs seem like they waste less space than Chrome's, so I'm more amenable to them moving to the top.
Most apps that sat in the taskbar have relocated to other parts of the browser, and the popup bar thing grew on me immensely after spending a few weeks with a FF 4 beta release that didn't have the popup yet.
I use the keyboard most of the time, so the extra screen space is quite appreciated.
I liked version three's popup windows better too, not nearly as condescending. Weird when no dit box, remember what key for every control combo. No labeled options right there, look in the folder. The worst is the password one. I liked it better when it was something I didn't even notice.
"Fox Two! Fox Two!"
I also have an ancient desktop (as in, it's from the days before multi-core processors) and Firefox had this irritating tendency to crash and bring the entire system to a halt.
Personally, I like having the menu bar hidden. The only menu I regularly used was Bookmarks, and there's now a Bookmarks button on the toolbar to open the Bookmarks bar. If I ever need something that's not available in the new Firefox menu, I can pop up the menu bar with the alt key, so why waste screen space on something I rarely use?
tangent One thing that drove me insane about Firefox 3.x was that, with the toolbar, menu bar, and tab bar, I couldn't fit the entire YouTube player on a page without having to scroll down slightly. Now I can keep it scrolled to the top and still see the whole thing.
I also like that the appearance is updated, the not-transparent toolbar/menu bar/etc in Firefox 3.x made it look like something straight out of Windows XP, which made it feel "old" to me.
You say "old" like a bad thing. Being old didn't make Vista better than XP...wait why am I on the old folks home?
Heh, Vista. I tweaked it until it acted and looked just like XP, which was just Windows 98 on steroids.
My wife uses Fire Fox, I'll have to ask her what she thinks of the updated version. Probably something like: "I don't care unless Frontierville doesn't work."
That's the only problem I have with the thread title. Beyond that, yeah, FF 4 is mostly a rushed release (as it has been happening with other browsers a lot recently). Then again, coming from someone who still uses FF 1 from time to time...
XP was a huge improvement because a lot of the issues of Windows came from trying to run it on top of DOS, and XP was the first consumer-oriented version to not use DOS.
I didn't like using an XP-looking app on my (then) shiny new Windows 7 laptop. The new Firefox at least has a more modern appearance.
Firefox 4 is alright but I only trust Netscape. OH GOD WHY DO I HAVE SO MANY E-WORMS
My problem with FF4 is that it freezes like nobody's business. I play computer games and every time I ALT TAB to use FF 4 it freezes for several seconds. Version 4.0.1 is only marginally better. IE 9 is way better in this respect.
edited 19th May '11 10:03:27 PM by Blurring
My toolbar is there, it's just all see-through and crap.
I just upgraded to the Firefox 5 beta. Things seem to be a bit faster but that's the only change I've seen. I don't think I really like the 'let's release as many versions as possible' strategy...
Looked it up, looks like they really are trying to release a bunch of updates this year.
edited 24th May '11 7:15:41 AM by Galeros
Is there an addon to turn that off yet?
There's no point really. Right now almost all of the changes to FF are performance based, rather than interface based or things like that.
I find my performance is enhanced by not having to dig up extension updates (if even available) every time a new major or semi-major version of FF is released. 3.0.19 says "fuck all y'all".
I tried v4, a while back, and was somewhat less than impressed, to put it mildly. Seemed too much "change for the sake of change", to me.
Great. I update to the beta for 5, and now I learn that the beta for 7 is out. Not gonna do it, I'm not that stupid.
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