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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#6026: Mar 30th 2020 at 2:28:32 AM

Still can't believe Lizard Man isn't in the game yet.

Like, what the hell?

Isn't Lizard Man something of a scrappy because of his voice?

Edited by windleopard on Mar 30th 2020 at 2:29:02 AM

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#6027: Mar 30th 2020 at 6:56:41 AM

I don't just mean playable. Edgemaster's been in the story for a long time.

Chie was also daughter of one of their clan's elders, and became its leader in SCV. But that's in the future.

Setsuka gets more development yes, but SCV is 17 years in the future, so there's not much to prompt it happening in the present day of SCVI.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#6028: Mar 30th 2020 at 8:37:23 AM

I just find it... honestly fascinating people can care about Lizardman as much as many people do.

I've been playing the series since SC 1 and have owned them all (barring spinoffs) and... yeah. He was a non-entity in SC 1, albeit a fucking awesome one. In two, even less so since he's one of the added characters. In 4, they play up the Lizardman horde even more. I remember his role in SCIII so little I thought it was his IV appearance until I looked it up.

I just... don't get where people get the attachment to him from. There's nothing wrong with it, I merely don't get it and it's curious.

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CountofBleck (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#6029: Mar 30th 2020 at 9:31:10 AM

He's a cool monster that got screqed over by the gods and has been trying to regain his humanity with little success. Plus like yoshimitsu his appearance varies per game, which is cool.

Plus he wields an axe and shield. That's just Rule of Cool

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#6030: Mar 30th 2020 at 1:26:28 PM

It's more for completion's sake, the fact that he has an interesting story, and that he's a bit of a Cosmic Plaything, almost to the point of being a Woobie, except monsters aren't usually allowed to be woobies.

He's like Waspinator.

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ShirowShirow Since: Nov, 2009
#6031: Mar 30th 2020 at 2:45:03 PM

I like cool monsters. Fighting games nowadays never introduce any new ones, just pretty people, so legacies like Lizardman are all we get.

agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
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#6032: Mar 31st 2020 at 6:46:18 AM

Isn't Lizard Man something of a scrappy because of his voice?

1st time I'm hearing about this.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#6033: Mar 31st 2020 at 1:38:06 PM

[up][up] See, that's why I like Lizardman... which is why I don't get people still clamoring for Aeon Calcos since, well, I can just make a Lizardman that ticks off what I care about.

... although Lizardman has the best demonstration in SC1.

[down] I'm pretty sure pre-transformation Aeon is less of a character than Rothion.

Edited by Larkmarn on Mar 31st 2020 at 5:05:09 AM

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#6034: Mar 31st 2020 at 1:43:16 PM

Have we ever actually seen what Aeon Calcos used to look like? I mean, obviously he hasn't been a playable character, but there must be art of what he looked like before he became a lizard person somewhere.

CountofBleck (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#6035: Mar 31st 2020 at 1:53:52 PM

If he is in scvi, we might be able to see him pre transmutation.

Vertigo_High Touch The Sky Since: May, 2010
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#6036: Apr 5th 2020 at 6:08:02 AM

Considering he's one of the villain generals he should be playable. Him and Hwang are two pretty glaring omissions TBH.

CountofBleck (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#6037: Apr 5th 2020 at 6:39:07 AM

Li long is also mentioned by mitsurugi in the main campaign so i had thought it would have been a good chance to re-introduce him to the series.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#6038: Apr 5th 2020 at 7:11:58 AM

I like cool monsters. Fighting games nowadays never introduce any new ones, just pretty people, so legacies like Lizardman are all we get.

Well, there was D'Vorah, Torr and Ferra from MKX in 2015. Though, yeah, it doesn't happen often.

Edited by windleopard on Apr 5th 2020 at 7:46:57 AM

agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
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#6039: Apr 5th 2020 at 7:45:46 AM

Maybe my term for monster design is broader than it is should be but there's been plenty of monsters & freaky designs when it comes to fighting games in general

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#6040: Apr 5th 2020 at 12:52:14 PM

IIRC Lizardman in the story mode is represented by a CAS Lizardman character using Sophitia's moveset.

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Ryuhza from San Diego County, California Since: Feb, 2012 Relationship Status: Tongue-tied
#6041: Apr 5th 2020 at 4:58:38 PM

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It's got some old Lizardman axe and shield staples blended with some Sophitia stuff, which resembles his original SoulCalibur moveset the most, appropriately enough. It's pretty far from a complete moveset though, hence why you can't actually use it unless you're on PC and mess with the game's files.

Presumably he'd get a full revamp if added as a playable character proper. Timeline wise, he's supposed to still be using a sword and shield, but they'd probably nix that to avoid having three of them in one game, plus it'd be casting aside a lot of his unique hand axe moves from when they developed him further apart from the Sophitia basis in III and IV.

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Vertigo_High Touch The Sky Since: May, 2010
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#6042: Apr 5th 2020 at 7:30:57 PM

Playing Nioh 2 made me realize a dual hatchet wielding character would've been super cool.

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#6043: Apr 7th 2020 at 3:01:22 AM

Honestly, dual axes Lizardman from V was the most interesting he's been, and not just because he stole three fourths of his movelist from Kratos. You had a feeling that he was something different than just another take on sword-n-board.

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
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#6045: Apr 7th 2020 at 10:13:57 PM

I'm not really sure if that was the context but I wouldn't know

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#6046: Apr 7th 2020 at 10:20:34 PM

Eh, big boobs are so ten years ago.

Which SC girl has the biggest butt is the real question of our times.

ShirowShirow Since: Nov, 2009
#6047: Apr 7th 2020 at 10:23:21 PM

Stil Ivy I will say after careful, careful observation.

Unless 2B counts.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#6049: Apr 7th 2020 at 10:41:11 PM

Actually here's a thought, in this series, or in fighting games in general, are the male characters actually eye candy for people who are attracted to men?

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#6050: Apr 7th 2020 at 10:44:51 PM

Jin and Hwoarang from Tekken.

I dunno about Sc. Sigfried is kinda hot, I guess.

Edited by Nikkolas on Apr 7th 2020 at 10:45:18 AM


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