I haven't watched Family Guy in a long time, but I'm just going to mention it's fairly easy to look up why White people (and, yes, White people voicing non-white/POC characters is different from the reverse) is a contentious.
And if we're talking about it, there's also issues with the whole "I don't see color" color narrative which, while (often) good-intentioned misses out on a lot of nuances of real life.
I admit I might be oversimplifying the situation greatly here, but still from what I know what prompted this was police brutality, not recent issues in show business. It feels a bit like they're deflecting from the real problem Dig 'Em style.
Edited by Psi001 on Jun 30th 2020 at 2:32:13 PM
I just now remember this comment from a video review/analysis of The Proud Family.
Said how every black character in the Farlane shows is the same shade of black. Which now that I think about it, I checked the Cleveland Show’s page, & wow literally every black on that show is the same shade of black.
No one is even a little darker or light from each other, it’s pretty much the same.
Edited by slimcoder on Jun 30th 2020 at 10:10:38 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Yeah, it does show up a lot in non-black shows.
It's been awhile since I've watched the Proud Family, but that's not actually true? Like, just looking up images of the characters will show you that.
Some of them are dark, some of them are light, and some of them are colored blue like they're from Doug.
It's been 3000 years…Its rather impressive when pointed out cause you actually start noticing it.
Trudy is more lighter skinned than Oscar for instance. Even the little twins look different from each other.
Edited by slimcoder on Jun 30th 2020 at 10:11:23 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Yea, I'm sure recasting Cleveland with a Black VA is going stop all crappy racist jokes they spend seconds on brainstorming on.
Family Guy somehow manages to be a bottomless pit of disappointment
Let's be honest though, Cleveland's running gag is the only consistently funny one.
It's been 3000 years…Let it be reminded that since the return of Cleveland, barring Donna who only shows up in group wife scenes, they have not used his family to any noticeable capacity.
Can anyone name me an episode where Jr, Rallo, or even Roberta does anything in any episode?
Then there was that whole episode where Jerome, their only other reoccurring black character, was a white racist that led to Peter singing a song titled "Thank the whites."
Edited by slimcoder on Jul 2nd 2020 at 6:34:53 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."JR got shot by Peter on accident when Peter's the neighborhood watch or whatever. I'm recalling clips on Youtube
Kinda awkward given the situation we're in right now.
> Let's be honest though, Cleveland's running gag is the only consistently funny one.
Their musical gags though are pretty funny
New theme music also a boxGood news: Cleveland now has a black voice actor in Arif Zahir! And to my happy surprise, Zahir is the same exact YouTuber who had Cleveland playing Resident Evil 7! (And it looks like I called it all the way back in June 2020!)
Bad news: Mike Henry already voiced Cleveland's lines for the upcoming season, so we won't hear Zahir until late 2021 at the earliest.
Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Sep 25th 2020 at 12:40:37 PM
I'm pretty sure I've commented about that very thing on his video too, so good for him.
It's been 3000 years…This gag is still one of the show's best, but I credit that to the song being just that good. I can just imagine what it looked like in the writer's room when they said "he needs to take milk from the shelf and he gets dragged into the Take on Me music video."
Edited by FOFD on Nov 24th 2020 at 6:16:27 AM
Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).One thing that now bugs me is the fact that Lois who comes from a rich family is like most animated sitcom moms the homemaker who does the cooking and the housework when you think about it should be kind of reversed with her and Peter.
Even if Peter comes from a very traditional Catholic family, I have a feeling he would be more used to doing housework and cooking in contrast with Lois who grew up rich and had servants to do that stuff or her. But again I think with Family Guy they don't really think deep about their characters, but just to fill stereotypes. In many episodes, the Men Can't Keep House and Dads Can't Cook is played stereotypically straight.
I mean it makes sense due to Marge being from a working class background like her husband, but with Lois you really notice that her rich background should have influenced her character more than it doesn't.
Edited by firewriter on Feb 18th 2021 at 5:26:07 AM
.......So when does that thing where Adult Swim and TBS losing Family Guy supposed to happen? They said 2021, well it's 2021 so.......yeah.
Sanity is the Lie, there is only Madness.The only thing that influenced Lois was her bastard of a father, Carter. He's the reason that Lois acts the way she does in the show nowadays.
Edited by IvanovTroping97 on Feb 23rd 2021 at 3:30:45 PM
I saw this week's episode with Brian falling for the shoe clerk and meeting her son. It was actually pretyt damn sweet by her standards.
The impression given in early episodes was that Lois hated living off her family's wealth and snobby lifestyle (plus Peter pisses off Daddy).
It's hard to really fathom much in later episodes where everyone's as much of a sociopath as Carter is, so it's hard to imagine Lois being that scrupulous anymore. Some episodes imply that Lois is actually kind of a deadbeat and married Peter because she looks like a saner competent person by relation. Living off Carter would be more stable, but wouldn't feed her ego as much (and ego seems to be a defining trait with most of the later characterisations).
Edited by Psi001 on Feb 22nd 2021 at 10:49:25 AM
She's would be portrayed as Daddy's Little Villain if she outright admit she's more like her father in so many ways. Then again her father seems to have treated her and her siblings better than she treats her own children.
I counted that as of "The Marrying Kind", there have been a total of 2,594 cutaway gags. Yes, I counted every single one from every season.
Take that, RationalWiki.
It may be the last season if Macfarlane gets his way. After the latest episode of Tucker Carlson, Seth said in no uncertain terms he no longer wants his shows on Fox, and the only way that’s happening is if Fox cancels them.
I'm just not really sure if this whole deal really helps actually. It's further race segregation, supporting that we are supposedly different. The discriminators are getting their opinions validated here.
It doesn't really work with a show that is recurrently shock value racist humour in the first place anyway.
I wonder what they would have done about Kevin Michael Richardson voicing Lester had Cleveland's show stayed on the air.
Edited by Psi001 on Jun 30th 2020 at 2:00:05 PM