@ firewriter: If anyone should be fodder for card-carrying Nazi exaggeration jokes, its Henry Ford because he was an outspoken anti-semitic and also a major prick, unlike Disney who's a nice guy that'd only be anti-semitic at worst because of Values Dissonance
It's not really cathartic. Quagmire isn't written as much of an asshole in that episode and ends up being abused beyond the abuse he's dolled out. That's generally a problem they have-whenever they try to pull the Asshole Victim on a main character it comes off as either going too far or them not being enough of an asshole at that moment. Or sometimes the character is written as an asshole when they normally aren't to justify being mean to them generally...aka the "Meg almost date rapes her brother" episode
Edited by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 on Oct 6th 2018 at 7:49:24 AM
I mean if Family Guy has no choice but to shame Walt Disney by exaggerating some flaw of his so much, why not go for something that was actually true, like Disney falling for the Mccarthy movement by thinking anyone who worked with him could be a communist which affected who he hired and fired?? Yep, that really happened.
That's the problem with the Family Guy writers is often they go for the lazy humor, instead of anything that takes research and effort. A anti-communist raging Walt Disney would be funnier and actually be less offensive to Disney fans. And it feels less mean spirited then their common incorrect interpretation of him.
Well, if Animaniacs can make humor out of historical figures that less people know about, then so can a adult animated show like Family Guy.
Edited by firewriter on Oct 7th 2018 at 12:29:24 PM
@ firewriter: Like how everyone makes Bill Clinton sex jokes, when the more Viewers Are Geniuses root would be to make Franklin Roosevelt sex jokes because he's so professional most don't even expect his long-time affair with Lucy Mercer or the rumors of a number of girlfriends he may have had like Missy LeHand
Edited by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 on Oct 7th 2018 at 11:36:03 PM
Not really related to the current conversation, but I've been thinking about why American Dad (generally) works better than Family Guy even though they both have a lot of the same people working on them and delve into Comedic Sociopathy.
It seems like American Dad is more of a genuine good sitcom with all that implies, whereas Family Guy thinks it's obliged to try and be a sitcom, and so forces moments in that don't really fit. And so you have so you have most of the characters generally being terrible people, except at the end of the episode where they make up or whatever because that's what happens, even though the supposed camaraderie and family relationships don't (for the most part) feel genuine anymore.
Compare American Dad, which does much the same, but tends to include more moments that make you believe the Smiths actually give a shit about each other and their friends. And so even though the episodes still often revolve around them taking things way too far, because that's comedy, the wrap up comes off feeling much more believable for the characters in question.
I believe that Stan genuinely loves Hailey, but I don't believe that Peter genuinely loves Meg, and moments that try to say otherwise fall flat when the vast majority of time Peter is Meg's worst tormentor.
Edited by LSBK on Oct 7th 2018 at 9:38:34 AM
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Whenever I think of Family Guy as a whole, I think the quote "I have a black hole where my heart should be" sums it up

I don't know it's been an old urban legend. Disney like many people of his era was racially insensitive sometimes, but people exaggerate him as being some card carrying Nazi which is untrue in real life.