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firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#1051: Sep 12th 2018 at 7:59:05 PM

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I don't know it's been an old urban legend. Disney like many people of his era was racially insensitive sometimes, but people exaggerate him as being some card carrying Nazi which is untrue in real life.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#1052: Sep 19th 2018 at 11:39:59 PM

Peter talks to God.

Edited by Soble on Sep 19th 2018 at 11:42:27 AM

I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!
Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#1053: Oct 4th 2018 at 3:11:16 PM

Anybody who wanted to see Quagmire get his comeuppance:

I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#1054: Oct 5th 2018 at 11:45:11 PM

@ firewriter: If anyone should be fodder for card-carrying Nazi exaggeration jokes, its Henry Ford because he was an outspoken anti-semitic and also a major prick, unlike Disney who's a nice guy that'd only be anti-semitic at worst because of Values Dissonance

[up] It's not really cathartic. Quagmire isn't written as much of an asshole in that episode and ends up being abused beyond the abuse he's dolled out. That's generally a problem they have-whenever they try to pull the Asshole Victim on a main character it comes off as either going too far or them not being enough of an asshole at that moment. Or sometimes the character is written as an asshole when they normally aren't to justify being mean to them generally...aka the "Meg almost date rapes her brother" episode

Edited by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 on Oct 6th 2018 at 7:49:24 AM

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#1055: Oct 6th 2018 at 1:56:07 AM

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You are so right about Henry Ford. Disney's biggest flaw was his zealous anti-communism views, which got many former employees blacklisted. However, compared to Ford, Disney was pretty much a good person.

kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#1056: Oct 6th 2018 at 9:33:20 AM

I mean if Family Guy has no choice but to shame Walt Disney by exaggerating some flaw of his so much, why not go for something that was actually true, like Disney falling for the Mccarthy movement by thinking anyone who worked with him could be a communist which affected who he hired and fired?? Yep, that really happened.

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#1057: Oct 6th 2018 at 10:32:52 AM

Now that actually could be used for great comedic effect, instead of these uncomfortable unfunny Nazi jokes.

kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#1058: Oct 6th 2018 at 11:10:48 AM

But noooo. "Nazis!" Because they need to cater to the force-fed, lazy, trending, lowest common denominator!

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#1059: Oct 6th 2018 at 12:59:47 PM

I think it's more like "I know my target audience is teenagers, they won't give a shit about who Henry Ford is. Now, Walt Disney, no one has trouble remembering that guy."

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firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#1060: Oct 7th 2018 at 12:28:22 PM

That's the problem with the Family Guy writers is often they go for the lazy humor, instead of anything that takes research and effort. A anti-communist raging Walt Disney would be funnier and actually be less offensive to Disney fans. And it feels less mean spirited then their common incorrect interpretation of him.

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Well, if Animaniacs can make humor out of historical figures that less people know about, then so can a adult animated show like Family Guy.

Edited by firewriter on Oct 7th 2018 at 12:29:24 PM

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#1061: Oct 7th 2018 at 1:46:59 PM

I see what you're saying, but Animaniacs is a lot smarter in its humor than Family Guy, if that makes sense.

The legend has returned.
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#1062: Oct 7th 2018 at 3:30:44 PM

@ firewriter: Like how everyone makes Bill Clinton sex jokes, when the more Viewers Are Geniuses root would be to make Franklin Roosevelt sex jokes because he's so professional most don't even expect his long-time affair with Lucy Mercer or the rumors of a number of girlfriends he may have had like Missy LeHand

Edited by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 on Oct 7th 2018 at 11:36:03 PM

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#1063: Oct 7th 2018 at 4:48:18 PM

It's easy to do jokes that everyone has heard time and before, but it's harder to do jokes that you have to put thought and effort into.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#1064: Oct 7th 2018 at 5:09:25 PM

Well Family Guy is very bottom of the barrel.

Every time they have an Italian they literally keep making the same joke.

Edited by slimcoder on Oct 7th 2018 at 5:09:00 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#1065: Oct 7th 2018 at 7:28:42 PM

They are annoyingly repetitive.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#1066: Oct 7th 2018 at 7:37:58 PM

Not really related to the current conversation, but I've been thinking about why American Dad (generally) works better than Family Guy even though they both have a lot of the same people working on them and delve into Comedic Sociopathy.

It seems like American Dad is more of a genuine good sitcom with all that implies, whereas Family Guy thinks it's obliged to try and be a sitcom, and so forces moments in that don't really fit. And so you have so you have most of the characters generally being terrible people, except at the end of the episode where they make up or whatever because that's what happens, even though the supposed camaraderie and family relationships don't (for the most part) feel genuine anymore.

Compare American Dad, which does much the same, but tends to include more moments that make you believe the Smiths actually give a shit about each other and their friends. And so even though the episodes still often revolve around them taking things way too far, because that's comedy, the wrap up comes off feeling much more believable for the characters in question.

I believe that Stan genuinely loves Hailey, but I don't believe that Peter genuinely loves Meg, and moments that try to say otherwise fall flat when the vast majority of time Peter is Meg's worst tormentor.

Edited by LSBK on Oct 7th 2018 at 9:38:34 AM

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#1067: Oct 7th 2018 at 10:47:13 PM

I think heartwarming moments are one of the most forced things in this series, because of the fact that the rest of moments are just fulled with hate and violence towards one another.

shackwave Ultraman Omega from Nebula M78 Since: Sep, 2018 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Ultraman Omega
#1068: Nov 16th 2018 at 12:17:03 PM

whats everyone’s thoughts on the latest season?

Edited by shackwave on Dec 5th 2018 at 6:47:42 PM

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#1069: Dec 18th 2018 at 10:06:04 PM

[up][up] Whenever I think of Family Guy as a whole, I think the quote "I have a black hole where my heart should be" sums it up

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#1070: Jan 3rd 2019 at 10:34:37 AM

Annnnnd Family Guy takes shots at millennials.

Edited by Soble on Jan 3rd 2019 at 10:41:45 AM

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TheWhiteWolf (ON INDEFINITE HIATUS) from the Restaurant at the End of the Universe Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#1071: Jan 3rd 2019 at 10:44:55 AM

...Didn't they already do that?

She/they. Hirrus Clutumnus is my comfort character
Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#1072: Jan 3rd 2019 at 10:50:11 AM

Their humour is so unfunny it can feel like that,it's that bad

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#1073: Jan 3rd 2019 at 10:58:23 AM

One thing worse than current Simpsons' humor is Family Guy current humor.

Aquaconda (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#1074: Jan 3rd 2019 at 11:01:22 AM

I see Family Guy is still wallowing in anti-humor.

Edited by Aquaconda on Jan 3rd 2019 at 1:01:46 PM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#1075: Jan 3rd 2019 at 11:01:59 AM

I dunno they're about the same level of [un]funny right now

have a listen and have a link to my discord server

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