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Miss_Desperado https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YD2i1FzUYA from somewhere getting rained on by Puget Sound Since: Sep, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#35601: Apr 20th 2018 at 10:05:21 AM

[up]I double-checked the dates. Not quite dead yet, just very slow. Mostly because (I think) everyone's gotten enamored with the Adventure-Friendly setting. You could always private-message the tropers with characters in QR's group and ask them if they're still interested in continuing in Space Liner.

edited 20th Apr '18 10:20:04 AM by Miss_Desperado

If not for this anchor I'd be dancing between the stars. At least I can try to write better vampire stories than Twilight.
Corvidae It's a bird. from Somewhere Else Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
It's a bird.
#35602: Apr 20th 2018 at 12:26:12 PM

Well, that both escalated and ended pretty quickly. Took a while to get caught up with everything happening in the Hub Town, but I've posted for Jann and Varg now.

Still a great "screw depression" song even after seven years.
Wolf1066 Crazy Kiwi from New Zealand (Veteran) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
Crazy Kiwi
#35603: Apr 20th 2018 at 1:19:49 PM

My characters are now set to "Inactive" in SpaceLiner.

Also added Ulf and the Plague Doctor to Chitara's Wagon location in the Frontier page.

Masterofchaos Since: Dec, 2010
#35604: Apr 20th 2018 at 1:27:54 PM

Ugh, why did no one tell me that looking for a new job would be this frustrating? x_x

Anyway, just a quick promotion thingy; my good friend, Pyonkotchi (the one who made that cute Marie now Maria icon a while back) has a game called Magical Warrior Diamond Heart and since half of you guys are anime nerds and at least one of you has a magical girl, I think you'll like it! I made a page for it. (Of course, some helpful tropers expanded on it).

Now that that's out of the way, I have a question, and it is thread related cause I wanted to bring in one of the villains of my story; is Mind Control a form of godmodding? I don't want to do that, so that's why I'm asking.

edited 20th Apr '18 1:28:28 PM by Masterofchaos

Yomegami Since: Jan, 2011
#35605: Apr 20th 2018 at 1:34:32 PM

The way I ran with it on the other side of the forums was that it was all right so long as both the person playing the mind controller and the person playing the person being controlled were okay with it. Considering the CDTs are looser than normal RPs, I think that'd probably work here too.

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Masterofchaos Since: Dec, 2010
#35606: Apr 20th 2018 at 1:36:55 PM

Alright, thanks!

P.S. That magical girl comment was about you, lol.

Miss_Desperado https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YD2i1FzUYA from somewhere getting rained on by Puget Sound Since: Sep, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#35607: Apr 20th 2018 at 1:39:29 PM

[up][up][up] and [up][up] Hey, I also have a mind-controlling villain! He's not gonna make an appearance in this thread, that would be redundant for Master of Chaos's plans. FYI, Arilay, Maequoql and Shale are Crazy-Prepared for such an occasion.

edited 20th Apr '18 1:42:55 PM by Miss_Desperado

If not for this anchor I'd be dancing between the stars. At least I can try to write better vampire stories than Twilight.
Kkutwar The Prince of Foolish Relevations from A Place Beneath both Good & Evil Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
The Prince of Foolish Relevations
#35608: Apr 20th 2018 at 1:47:26 PM

Huh, now I really want Valerie Nexus to misunderstand what Magical Girl means and confusedly/unimpressedly claim she's one too. Speaking of mind control though...

Where would be a good spot to introduce her Possessed big sis? Specifically, I would want to avoid having the mute swordswoman and berserk brawler being immediately cured of their curses.

"The Omniverse is the collection of all possibilities, and all possibilities must eventually come to pass."
EternaMemoria To dream is my right from Somewhere far away Since: Mar, 2016 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
To dream is my right
#35609: Apr 20th 2018 at 4:55:27 PM

I have made my Cas post and...

What the hell, KC? Did you think the Míron/Justin fight scene was too boring? Now I have to figure out if Míron would rather confront Justin&Co or intervene in what seems like an imminent execution.

"The dried flowers are so beautiful, and it applies to all things living and dead."
Kkutwar The Prince of Foolish Relevations from A Place Beneath both Good & Evil Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
The Prince of Foolish Relevations
#35610: Apr 20th 2018 at 5:08:59 PM

UD Justin's constructs began fading after Justin and "Vindex" defused. Even then, though rapid, it wouldn't have been instantaneous. Regarding the Ace of Spades, I don't particularly mind if Miron gets involved there- Though I hope for at least some reaction to my characters. Oh, just realized: Why does no have anti-antimagic defenses?

"The Omniverse is the collection of all possibilities, and all possibilities must eventually come to pass."
KillerClowns Since: Jan, 2001
#35611: Apr 20th 2018 at 5:14:13 PM

[up][up]I ran it by Millership before posting it; theoretically, there's a Plan, though others are as ever free to intervene and reduce that plan to ashes.

Why does no have anti-antimagic defenses?

Not worth hard countering something that has such Crippling Overspecialization already? It's easier to just shoot/stab/punch/telekinetically lob a boulder at an anti-magic user.

edited 20th Apr '18 5:20:36 PM by KillerClowns

Kkutwar The Prince of Foolish Relevations from A Place Beneath both Good & Evil Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
The Prince of Foolish Relevations
#35613: Apr 20th 2018 at 5:34:26 PM

I mean, Magic and "Anti-Magic" are at their core about reality manipulation. Sure, it is easier to just physics your way to victory, and combating every possible form of anti-magic would be annoying...

But there are people whose whole thing is doing things the hard way simply to show they can. I also find it rather bizarre Anti-Magic has this presence of being infallible if you simply exert enough power.

"The Omniverse is the collection of all possibilities, and all possibilities must eventually come to pass."
Slysheen Professional Recluse from My nerd cave Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Professional Recluse
#35614: Apr 20th 2018 at 6:00:04 PM

@Wolf

Mm, thanks, always seem to forget we have an actual TVT page for these.

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Millership from Kazakhstan Since: Jan, 2014
#35615: Apr 20th 2018 at 8:54:56 PM

I ran it by Millership before posting it

True. And the Ace of Spades seems to be in a talkative mood so far. And there are ways of defusing the situation.

Why does no have anti-antimagic defenses?

Anti-Magic is impossible in the Shattered World. No need to develop ways of countering it.

Spiral out, keep going.
Wolf1066 Crazy Kiwi from New Zealand (Veteran) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
Crazy Kiwi
#35616: Apr 20th 2018 at 10:15:17 PM

[up][up][up][up] What the fuck are you moaning about?

I see the Cas post, I'll see if I feel unwound enough to post for Peggy, Kaitlyn and Karl later this evening or early tomorrow - it's been a pretty full-on day and I feel like my head and neck have been pummelled.

[up][up] No probs. Just in case someone decides to have their characters drop by Chitara's Wagon and needs to know who's there first.

edited 20th Apr '18 10:18:24 PM by Wolf1066

Millership from Kazakhstan Since: Jan, 2014
Miss_Desperado https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YD2i1FzUYA from somewhere getting rained on by Puget Sound Since: Sep, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#35618: Apr 21st 2018 at 8:30:04 AM

Ladytanuki, you misread my post. Thunder, not Flashfoot, chased the pervert Rook away. Fortunately, that's an easily edited mistake. Are you ready for the D'voreem ambush?

edited 21st Apr '18 8:31:19 AM by Miss_Desperado

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EternaMemoria To dream is my right from Somewhere far away Since: Mar, 2016 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
To dream is my right
#35619: Apr 21st 2018 at 8:50:39 AM

Hmm, I just realized that the Ace of Spades mess wouldn't be visible to people in the town square, since it is happening inside the city hall. Well, one less mess to get myself into

"The dried flowers are so beautiful, and it applies to all things living and dead."
Kkutwar The Prince of Foolish Relevations from A Place Beneath both Good & Evil Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
The Prince of Foolish Relevations
#35620: Apr 21st 2018 at 9:55:00 AM

I'm rather curious, but other than being made of "evilness" why do most of the characters assume the worst of Vindex? Neither he or UD Justin caused any serious harm or destruction, and if being creepy and/or annoying was a crime Vindex would hardly be the only guilty- And objectively proving someone guilty of Creepy Annoyance for legal trial would be time consuming.

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EternaMemoria To dream is my right from Somewhere far away Since: Mar, 2016 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
To dream is my right
#35621: Apr 21st 2018 at 10:04:40 AM

Vindex spent a lot of time threatening everyone, and assuming they all were willing to harm Valerie. So he did mark himself as a menace, and as far as anyone knows, he was what turned the normally polite Justin into a raging monster

EDIT: and even if they didn't cause any serious harm other than damaging property of Míron's church, it seemed certain that they would bring harm upon Míron and possibly many others in an attempt to "save" them

edited 21st Apr '18 10:10:15 AM by EternaMemoria

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Kkutwar The Prince of Foolish Relevations from A Place Beneath both Good & Evil Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
The Prince of Foolish Relevations
#35622: Apr 21st 2018 at 10:50:49 AM

"Vindex" really only threatened Wolfe & Co who couldn't hear him anyways. He really only directed his aggression at those he saw as threats- Sindar in particular because he pointed his "Rot Life" power at Valerie. Miron, however, is because Vindex has complicated issues regarding Gods. I wouldn't rule out Suicide by Cop being mixed up in there somewhere, but ultimately Vindex is just (over)protective & ill-socialized because people are regularly "Awful thing shouldn't exist".

Edit: Regarding UD Justin and his exclusive desire to "save"... Other than unnatural white hair and scars, recovery would of been easy. Valerie is more experienced than when she bonded Justin to her, and with infection being so recent Valerie probably could cure it outright. Failing that, a Transformation Trinket letting them invoke their stabilized demonic energy.

edited 21st Apr '18 10:57:28 AM by Kkutwar

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KillerClowns Since: Jan, 2001
#35623: Apr 21st 2018 at 11:56:39 AM

I'm rather curious, but other than being made of "evilness" why do most of the characters assume the worst of Vindex?

Alice told him to move the duel somewhere it wouldn't risk causing collateral damage. He refused. I dare say, Alice's request was reasonable at its root, and refusing it showed an arrogant disrespect for the rest of the people in the area. (As her inner monologue about what one can do and still get a Davos invitation indicates, there was a level of hypocrisy involved, but that doesn't make her wrong. And of course, being threatening and domineering in her demand probably didn't help.)

edited 21st Apr '18 12:00:24 PM by KillerClowns

Kkutwar The Prince of Foolish Relevations from A Place Beneath both Good & Evil Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
The Prince of Foolish Relevations
#35624: Apr 21st 2018 at 12:16:33 PM

Except UD Justin is deliberately a negative and twisted persona, thus everything he did was something Justin considered normal for Demons- And it all left Vindex enraged once he could properly act as an individual again.

"The Omniverse is the collection of all possibilities, and all possibilities must eventually come to pass."
KillerClowns Since: Jan, 2001
#35625: Apr 21st 2018 at 12:47:26 PM

Ah. Misunderstood, I thought you meant before the matter resolved itself. At this point... well, honestly, Alice still would kill Vindex, Valerie, and Justin if she thought she could get away with it, but she's not got any particularly good reason for it, and won't make a priority of it when there's more profitable schemes to manage. The grudge she bears them is now kept alive by the petty, vicious wellspring of cruelty that defines her.

edited 21st Apr '18 12:48:11 PM by KillerClowns


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