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chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#2901: Aug 21st 2011 at 4:27:17 PM

So, I think we should time-skip towards planting people into the hotel. We need to get a feel of the setting, and get Alexia into play.

PsychoFreaX Card-Carrying Villain >:D from Transcended Humanity Since: Jan, 2010
#2902: Aug 21st 2011 at 10:20:43 PM

sad That was sudden....... I really was planning to kill Prisha off though. But with a little more dignity. Why'd Kob just do that anyway?

edited 21st Aug '11 10:21:31 PM by PsychoFreaX

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QQQQQ from Canada Since: Jul, 2011
#2903: Aug 21st 2011 at 10:21:50 PM

edited 22nd Aug '11 1:50:40 PM by QQQQQ

PsychoFreaX Card-Carrying Villain >:D from Transcended Humanity Since: Jan, 2010
#2904: Aug 21st 2011 at 10:33:43 PM

Okay??? I guess it's time I.......... leave............ I'll just...... back off............ back off.................. back............. off..........

edited 21st Aug '11 10:49:41 PM by PsychoFreaX

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KSPAM PARTY PARTY PARTY I WANNA HAVE A PARTY from PARTY ROCK Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
PARTY PARTY PARTY I WANNA HAVE A PARTY
#2905: Aug 21st 2011 at 10:36:08 PM

Cain likey evil grin

I've got new mythological machinery, and very handsome supernatural scenery. Goodfae: a mafia web serial
PsychoFreaX Card-Carrying Villain >:D from Transcended Humanity Since: Jan, 2010
#2906: Aug 21st 2011 at 10:38:38 PM

run.................................................

There could've been other ways Kob could have tried to manipulate him. But then I DID piss a lot of people off with the Mecha Titan. So I'll be a hypocrite to complain. sad I'll still leave................

Bye....................

edited 21st Aug '11 10:57:16 PM by PsychoFreaX

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Gault Laugh and grow dank! from beyond the kingdom Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: P.S. I love you
Laugh and grow dank!
#2907: Aug 22nd 2011 at 1:59:17 AM

Holy shit. Prisha got brained... Goddamn.

yey
PsychoFreaX Card-Carrying Villain >:D from Transcended Humanity Since: Jan, 2010
#2908: Aug 22nd 2011 at 5:21:05 AM

I'm finally out of my BSOD. But you know it's not exactly the fact that Prisha died that I have a problem with. It's just the suddenness you killed him. What I mean is, you can at least warn me in the discussion you're about to blow off the head of a character I just had over fifty pages worth of development with. Then I could decide if it's okay to just throw it all down the drain to add drama.

Turns out Prisha had every reason to worry about getting zapped into the safe house though sad. Worst thing is he now really wants to be in future threads for some reason.

edited 22nd Aug '11 6:42:50 AM by PsychoFreaX

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CrystalGlacia from at least we're not detroit (Living Relic)
#2909: Aug 22nd 2011 at 7:56:06 AM

To be honest, it was a little sudden. I would count it among, say, firing up Titanic a day early (on the day when I had to work the concession stand, no less) and randomly shooting everyone to death in Outpost.*

"Jack, you have debauched my sloth."
QQQQQ from Canada Since: Jul, 2011
#2910: Aug 22nd 2011 at 8:23:05 AM

edited 22nd Aug '11 9:05:25 AM by QQQQQ

KillerClowns Since: Jan, 2001
#2911: Aug 22nd 2011 at 9:44:58 AM

Thank you, QQQQQ. I apologize if my tone in the PMs we exchanged was harsh, and I wouldn't be surprised if somebody else's more coolly worded PM, as opposed to my rant, was what convinced you.

edited 22nd Aug '11 9:56:07 AM by KillerClowns

Gault Laugh and grow dank! from beyond the kingdom Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: P.S. I love you
Laugh and grow dank!
#2912: Aug 22nd 2011 at 9:47:43 AM

Oh shit son. A lot of people are going to have to do a lot of backtracking with their posts.

yey
CrystalGlacia from at least we're not detroit (Living Relic)
#2913: Aug 22nd 2011 at 9:56:27 AM

So, we're blanking our reactions to Prisha's sudden death?

"Jack, you have debauched my sloth."
KillerClowns Since: Jan, 2001
#2914: Aug 22nd 2011 at 10:01:43 AM

[up][down]Yep.

QQQQQ did what he did to keep Prisha from being too annoying, and to scare us back onto the heist. Both of these are very important goals, so let's make sure they're taken care of.

PsychoFreaX, there's a good chance your PM box will get some friendly advice and "friendly advice" for helping yourself and Prisha find your niche in the CDTs. You would do well to regard it carefully.

As for the rest of us: let us not forget that we have a casino to rob. Every scheme of vengeance our characters have dreamed up starts at the same point: get that diadem. So let's make sure we get that diadem, and put on a damn good show while we do it.

edited 22nd Aug '11 10:55:39 AM by KillerClowns

Dvdmacyoshi Since: Jul, 2011
#2915: Aug 22nd 2011 at 10:21:12 AM

So, we're Retconning Prisha's death? Fair enough.

KillerClowns Since: Jan, 2001
#2916: Aug 22nd 2011 at 11:16:32 AM

For those of you with whip lash: we're going from this post to this one.

PsychoFreaX Card-Carrying Villain >:D from Transcended Humanity Since: Jan, 2010
#2917: Aug 22nd 2011 at 6:23:50 PM

Thanks guys and girls. But if you find my character annoying and want to get rid of him PLEASE just say it to me up straight and be honest. I hate it more if you ditch me and sugar coat with any lousy excuse you can find. You can still say it now if you want.

Also killing a character without warning OUTSIDE a crisis point just increases the shock value. I mean, if Prisha died in the fight against Shinji I really wouldn't have minded. Because the crisis did build up to his death. I was even half expecting Daisuke to shoot him from behind. You either warn someone of their character's death in story or the discussion okay?

edited 22nd Aug '11 6:34:42 PM by PsychoFreaX

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CrystalGlacia from at least we're not detroit (Living Relic)
#2918: Aug 22nd 2011 at 6:42:57 PM

I know, and we apologize.

If I were to give you some brutally honest opinions on Prisha, you wouldn't take them as a personal attack, would you?

"Jack, you have debauched my sloth."
snowfoxofdeath Thou errant flap-dragon! from San Francisco Suburb Since: Apr, 2012
Thou errant flap-dragon!
#2919: Aug 22nd 2011 at 6:48:44 PM

If I weren't so timid about injuring other people's characters, William would have dislocated Prisha's jaw by now, since he hates whiny children. The hand cutting thing was just to defend Shinji, so I don't count it.

Warm hugs and morally questionable advice given here. Prosey Bitchfest
PsychoFreaX Card-Carrying Villain >:D from Transcended Humanity Since: Jan, 2010
#2920: Aug 22nd 2011 at 6:52:08 PM

Not really. I admit he can get annoyingly angsty. But in this case he's quite human isn't he? If you just went through three days effort of escaping the heist just to get randomly zapped back to the safe house by a sadistic author, it will take a while to get over it. It doesn't help that everyone in that safe house has a grudge against him and it turns out there ARE hidden turrets all around the safe house. Which I guess he was half expecting.

edited 22nd Aug '11 7:01:18 PM by PsychoFreaX

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QQQQQ from Canada Since: Jul, 2011
#2921: Aug 22nd 2011 at 7:07:17 PM

Prisha seems somewhat like a realistic character to me, in the way he acts panicky and scared and anxious for his own survival. Maybe too painfully so, as in the last few pages we only get to hear him scream "Leave me alone!(!!!)" to that effect - and it evokes the memories of people who only seem to like complaining about their situation instead of really doing something about it. How did Prisha learn that the World "is" an inherently scary place anyway? If you can hint at that reason, somewhere in his history, it can greatly help for readers to emphathise more with him.

As well, M. Kobayashi deciding on making an example of Prisha — that is my idea, and mine alone, none of the others really wanted character death. After watching [REC] with its frenzied atmosphere and the immersion, I felt desperate to apply that same feeling of involvement to this thread, and thus I made Kobayashi show off his ruthlessness. (It seemed greatly ironic if you look at it as how Prisha, so desperate and worrying about his own life, has in fact made everyone turn against him and finally experiencing Kobayashi's wrath.) There was little personal involved in that, and I mentioned you could freely bring in another character.

The one reason which I did it so suddenly without consulting, was to shock and get everyone alert. For otherwise I felt - it wouldn't impact much if people are already expecting it. But I should really have consulted before making such a drastic action.

Prisha, with all his doubt, would make for a great troubleshooter (thinking out all the things that can go wrong) if he applies his personality a bit better. A character arc you might start him on is finding the courage he needs - albeit like the Cowardly Lion from the Wizard of Oz.

edited 22nd Aug '11 7:21:50 PM by QQQQQ

PsychoFreaX Card-Carrying Villain >:D from Transcended Humanity Since: Jan, 2010
#2922: Aug 22nd 2011 at 7:21:17 PM

Okay lets see where were we? Prisha losing all hope in escaping now request Shinji take him to Kobayashi so he can do a Taking You with Me on Kobayashi and his many agents. Believing since there's no escape, he can at least achieve something in death.

Not sure if Kobayashi WILL die from it. But if he does a colleague of his can take his place. After all, he's only a worker of his organization along with many others, not the Big Bad. Should we still do that?

[up]If you wanted to shock everyone else, you CAN warn me in a PM.

edited 22nd Aug '11 7:30:21 PM by PsychoFreaX

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chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#2923: Aug 22nd 2011 at 7:22:39 PM

I think Kobayashi should be in the casino when the heist happens, so we can easily kill him off.

QQQQQ from Canada Since: Jul, 2011
#2924: Aug 22nd 2011 at 7:29:24 PM

[up][up] Of course - I'll remember to PM next time. Why would Kobayashi want to risk his hide being at the place he's robbing?

Gault Laugh and grow dank! from beyond the kingdom Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: P.S. I love you
Laugh and grow dank!
#2925: Aug 22nd 2011 at 7:35:57 PM

[up] Those shocking twists have a habit of pissing people off, Mr. Shyamalan. Remember when you tried turning Garden into a cryogenically-induced hallucination?

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