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MegaJ Since: Oct, 2009
#1: Apr 23rd 2011 at 11:59:19 PM

This tends to get mixed up with Monochrome Casting. For the record:

Monochrome Casting: The cast/characters/everyone else is one race, despite the area they live in tending to be diverse, typically noticeable in big cities.

Least Common Skin Tone: The cast/characters/everyone is one race, despite taking place 10,000 years in the future/in a fantasy realm whatever.

One is for fantasy media, the other is not. I think the distinctions are clear, but the name isn't as looking through the Least Common Skin Tone wicks and examples, they include media that isn't fantasy quite often. I think the name of the trope is throwing people off, I think the fantasy angle needs to be played up more in the name.

Maybe No Black People In Space?

MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#2: Apr 24th 2011 at 12:34:25 AM

I think it's intended to be a snowclone of Most Common Superpower. A very iffy one, I might add.

Madrugada Since: Jan, 2001
#3: Apr 24th 2011 at 7:38:49 AM

I don't see any connection between the name and the trope. What makes it the "least common" skin tone? Needs a new name. Needs to be rewritten to be less whiny, too.

edited 24th Apr '11 7:40:15 AM by Madrugada

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#4: Apr 24th 2011 at 8:04:36 AM

Fixed tag. It's got decent usage. I do think it's badly named.

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MegaJ Since: Oct, 2009
MegaJ Since: Oct, 2009
#6: May 3rd 2011 at 11:17:49 PM

Bump for name suggestions.

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nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#8: May 3rd 2011 at 11:32:17 PM

It can be any kind of speculative fiction though.

Embryon from Toronto Since: Mar, 2010
#9: May 4th 2011 at 9:34:52 PM

World Of White Cast?

I dunno.

edited 4th May '11 9:36:10 PM by Embryon

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MegaJ Since: Oct, 2009
#10: May 4th 2011 at 10:22:11 PM

That has a nice ring to it. It's hard to do alliterative titles for this.

Embryon from Toronto Since: Mar, 2010
#11: May 4th 2011 at 10:35:08 PM

I think it sounds good too, but it's not super clear. I was trying to get the "fictional universe" element into it, though, to distinguish it from Monochrome Casting. What about something related to the page quote or some other example? Only Black Jedi? No Black Wizards?

...Humans Are White?

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it. And even if it is broke, just ignore it and maybe it'll be sort of OK — like the environment."
MegaJ Since: Oct, 2009
#12: May 5th 2011 at 1:08:57 AM

The main paragraph needs to be re-written a bit to include all speculative fiction, I guess.

I like Humans Are White, touches on the meaning of the trope.

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Cider The Final ECW Champion from Not New York Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
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#14: May 5th 2011 at 3:07:43 PM

I like humans are white, they are similar but monochrome casting is more about the cast, where least common sitcom is about humanity as a species.

I suppose that could be a case of same but more. Monochrome casting, but of the whole entire setting, not just the cast.

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MegaJ Since: Oct, 2009
#15: May 5th 2011 at 10:37:34 PM

With Monochrome Casting, that could be about any race besides just White (for example, I think Martin primarily showed blacks and sprinkled a few other races in group scenes, but you could argue Monochrome Casting in those situations is a response to a lot of shows being White-dominated, but that's another argument. Anyway.)

This is unique as in, we're dealing with science fiction, fantasy, superhero comics, supernatural writings, horror. Highly imaginative genres featuring so many different creatures yet, despite being imaginative and full of wonder, that one problematic real-life aspect of media (lack of diversity) stands out even more.

I'm up for Humans Are White.

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#16: May 5th 2011 at 10:54:40 PM

So, should we do a crowner, or just go with Humans Are White?

Aminatep Vulpes Zerda from Glorious Mother Russia Since: Oct, 2009
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#17: May 6th 2011 at 4:55:57 AM

Humanity Is Caucasian. For sophisticatedness.

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MegaJ Since: Oct, 2009
#18: May 6th 2011 at 2:12:03 PM

How does one set up a crowner?

Cider The Final ECW Champion from Not New York Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
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#19: May 7th 2011 at 12:14:12 PM

I don't know, but yeah, Humans are Caucasian sounds better than white for the pedant in me.

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#20: May 7th 2011 at 12:26:48 PM

Supporting Humans Are White or Humans Are Caucasian (no real preferences). It sounds exactly like what it is.

edited 7th May '11 12:27:00 PM by DoktorvonEurotrash

MegaJ Since: Oct, 2009
#21: May 9th 2011 at 10:04:57 AM

Humanity Is Caucasian actually does sound better than the snowclone. I'm going to attempt to re-write the main paragraph sometime later.

edited 9th May '11 10:05:18 AM by MegaJ

Embryon from Toronto Since: Mar, 2010
#22: May 10th 2011 at 10:10:37 AM

I also prefer Humanity Is Caucasian — sounds more pleasant than my initial, blunt suggestion.

By the way, does this trope apply to humanoid races in general? Like the all-white humans, dwarves, elves and hobbits in The Lord Of The Rings (at least the movies)? Because if so, something like Humanoids Are Caucasian might be more suitable.

EDIT: Or maybe Lot R is just a really blatant example of Monochrome Casting, and this trope is more "if there are humans in the work, they will all be Caucasian, with one or two exceptions".

...But then again, when I think of fantasy novels and the like, the covers always show Caucasian humans/elves/whatever. Possibly justified by their often Medieval European-ish settings, but still. There doesn't seem to be much ethnic diversity in the human/elf/whatever settlements of fantastic realms.

edited 10th May '11 10:22:49 AM by Embryon

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it. And even if it is broke, just ignore it and maybe it'll be sort of OK — like the environment."
Embryon from Toronto Since: Mar, 2010
#25: May 14th 2011 at 9:52:32 AM

So are we doing a crowner on renaming? Here are the usage counts, if anyone's interested.

''Least Common Skin Tone found in: 129 articles, excluding discussions.

This title has brought 390 people to the wiki from non-search engine links since 20th FEB '09.''

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it. And even if it is broke, just ignore it and maybe it'll be sort of OK — like the environment."

AlternativeTitles: LeastCommonSkinTone
31st May '11 7:36:17 PM

Crown Description:

Previous single proposition crowner showed that a consensus of those who voted supported renaming Least Common Skin Tone.

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