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memyselfandI2 Dunsparce Cloud from The Biosphere Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Dunsparce Cloud
#9376: Dec 26th 2012 at 6:56:46 PM

Re: Super Empathy: Seems like the supernatural ability is less persuasiveness and more understanding what emotions are best to appeal to in another?

Dunsparce didn't stop being a thing or anything.
Eskay64 Since: Nov, 2010
#9377: Dec 26th 2012 at 6:57:20 PM

Super Empathy

Crewe

Hearts tend to be charismatic anyway, so the persuasion bit comes from both that and letting them know your emotions.

Sixth

As with any "perfect" thing, there is, in actuality, a chance of error.

Every

Precisely.

MGMT

Wolf

I hadn't considered talking with Slouch yet. But Pippi's response is... pending.

edited 26th Dec '12 6:57:59 PM by Eskay64

Sixthhokage1 Since: Feb, 2013
#9378: Dec 26th 2012 at 7:02:03 PM

Well, Pippi did say she has "NO motivation to […] even visit TV Tropes most days", and that D!Post was her last post on the site so far, so she probably hasn't even been on TVT at all. She also said "If anyone wants any of [her] characters. They can have them. " so she did give permission, though I understand wanting to expressly clear taking over MGMT with her.

memyselfandI2 Dunsparce Cloud from The Biosphere Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Dunsparce Cloud
#9379: Dec 26th 2012 at 7:02:52 PM

Hm. And regarding situations when it's logic that needs to be appealed to?

Dunsparce didn't stop being a thing or anything.
Eskay64 Since: Nov, 2010
#9380: Dec 26th 2012 at 7:06:18 PM

Every: The power won't help there. If normal empathy would be useless, Super Empathy would be useless.

edited 26th Dec '12 7:12:33 PM by Eskay64

PippingFool Eclipse the Moon from A Floridian Prison Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
Eclipse the Moon
#9381: Dec 27th 2012 at 3:34:47 AM

Umbra & Eskay

Yes, you may have the characters of your choices. I don't mind.

I'm having to learn to pay the price
Umbramatic Meet The New Boss from WAAPT usually, sometimes WHABP or maybe PEFE Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Meet The New Boss
#9382: Dec 27th 2012 at 10:35:47 PM

edited 28th Dec '12 5:40:02 AM by Umbramatic

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crowlover from a Jolly Caucus Race Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
#9383: Dec 28th 2012 at 3:27:30 AM

@Umbra On the remark about the recap, maybe we could work on what to divide each of the sections so far into? I'm probably not the best person to help with that, though.

"Don't worry, murder is a sign of affection." - An amalgamation of Dunsparce
DarkerShining (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#9384: Dec 28th 2012 at 4:16:27 AM

[up][up] I have some of the same concerns actually. No one acknowledged one of my posts last night in any way, not even any joking comments on Goggles' observation. Then again, I suppose my posts aren't much compared to all the amazing RPers in this RP...

memyselfandI2 Dunsparce Cloud from The Biosphere Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Dunsparce Cloud
#9385: Dec 28th 2012 at 8:03:19 AM

You are an excellent writer, DS. You don't need to worry about that.

Dunsparce didn't stop being a thing or anything.
Sixthhokage1 Since: Feb, 2013
#9386: Dec 28th 2012 at 8:29:55 AM

To Umbra:

I do understand your concern, and I think it is legitimate and that that post didn't need to be completely blanked. I try to give opinions and responses more, but I still have a hard time coming up with any commentary and when all I say is "good post" or "lol" or "cute" and stuff along those lines, I can't help but feel like I'm being annoying, plus it also becomes somewhat rote, and I don't want to be saying things more out of habit, because it doesn't feel to me as if it means near as much then. Though if I don't give an opinion on a post, picture, et cetera, I most likely liked it. That or I haven't actually seen it yet, which is increasingly the case it seems.

To DS:

You're a great writer, DS. We are our own harshest critics (I still struggle to see my writing as good myself when others compliment it), remember. As for last night, well, I was honestly skimming because I was busy working on my laptop, but there's also the points I made above

Eskay64 Since: Nov, 2010
#9387: Dec 28th 2012 at 8:41:41 AM

DS

Like others have said, you really are a great writer. That one post you're referring to, I wanted to say something about, but I got distracted and forgot to upon return. And for that, I apologize.

As for the rest of your stuff, I honestly think you're at least twice as good as me. For one thing, you can actually stick to an idea and stay with it until it's finished; I don't want to blame it on my ADHD (I've managed to get things done despite it), but I've tried and failed multiple times to do exactly that. It's one of the things I like about the fact that you're writing a fanfic; I know I'm not reading it while it's still in progress, but I plan on reading it just because you've managed to keep putting effort into it for who knows how long.

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#9388: Dec 28th 2012 at 8:45:59 AM

I'm sorry for not reacting to your post, DS. I usually try to make it a point to, but I was out when it was posted, and missed it.

Umbramatic Meet The New Boss from WAAPT usually, sometimes WHABP or maybe PEFE Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#9389: Dec 28th 2012 at 9:46:54 AM

OK, due to what Sixth said I feel I should reiterate what I said last D!Post... with more politeness and clarity, hopefully.

What I was trying to say is we need to stop making each other feel invisible. Especially for posts, Swapnotes, drawings, etc. that we're particularly proud of or enjoyed making.

Now, I'm not saying we should make uber-long analysises of every post, nor am I saying we need to instantly pay attention and give our two cents on everything.

I'm saying that some sort of commentary, even an occasional "lol" or "d'awww" (hopefully a little more with important posts) is better than apathy. Which seems to be the default response to everything in this community unless it directly affects someone.

The cliques we seem to fall into don't help much either, as people rarely comment on what goes on outside of them. We're all guilty at least to an extent, though. We really need to work on breaking said cliques up, or at least mixing them up a little.

Overall, I hope people don't take too much offense at this. I know this same concern is shared by Eskay and DS, among others. Please, try to keep this in mind. Because no one wants to feel like an island.

(Also, we still need to work on Recap.)

edited 28th Dec '12 10:01:02 AM by Umbramatic

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strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#9390: Dec 28th 2012 at 9:52:35 AM

If someone has no opinion on something, then they have no opinion. Nothing else. You can't force someone to have an opinion.

Eskay64 Since: Nov, 2010
#9391: Dec 28th 2012 at 9:56:59 AM

Straw, he's saying "don't say it", not "say something else".

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#9392: Dec 28th 2012 at 9:58:50 AM

Umbra: Forgive me if I don't seem overly sympathetic, but when was the last time you commented on one of my posts? I agree that we should acknowledge each other more, but this is something that everyone is equally guilty of. I know that sometimes, my choice to remain mostly separate from the chats makes me feel like a second-class citizen in the RP. It's gotten better lately, but I still feel like there are times where an upcoming plot is explained to me as if making sure I know things is an afterthought.

And I'm with Straw. Sometimes, you just don't have any strong feelings about something. It's not a crime. On the contrary, I think our issue is less people not having opinions, and more people not speaking up when they do like something.

strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#9393: Dec 28th 2012 at 10:01:24 AM

Well, there's pretty much nothing else to say but something else, since we can't even say nothing, since IIRC that is apparently just as bad as saying you have no opinion.

Umbramatic Meet The New Boss from WAAPT usually, sometimes WHABP or maybe PEFE Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#9394: Dec 28th 2012 at 10:03:39 AM

Wolf: I'm sorry if I've made you feel that way, and excellent point. I edited out the singling out of particular people, because you're right. We're all guilty.

Also edited out the no opinion part for Straw and Wolf's sake. Though still feel iffy on it.

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#9395: Dec 28th 2012 at 10:13:40 AM

I'm not bothered with being named there, because I know that it's true, but...

I usually don't have much to say about pretty much anything that doesn't involve my characters, I don't want to simply post a "I like it" or "That was nice" just for the sake of commenting, but most of the time I really can't think of anything to say, so I just stay silent most of the time. I'm just bad at wording what I think about something most of the time, which is rather bad since I'm trying to become a writer, I guess. That and sometimes I'm on the chat, but actually doing something else while leaving the chat open, be it having dinner, lunch, playing some game or spending time with my family, so sometimes when I arrive I think it's a bit too late to give feedback and just leave it be.

I don't get much feedback on my posts either, but I don't really care about that since I'm somewhat bad at R Ping and I have trouble keeping my characters consistent, but sorry for not giving any feedback myself.

Eskay64 Since: Nov, 2010
#9396: Dec 28th 2012 at 10:24:14 AM

I still think Umbra had the better point on the "no opinion" bit. Maybe what I said was wrong. But still, at least for bigger stuff, learning that people don't have an opinion on something big tends to hurt the writer. A lot. And it even happens in cases where it does directly affect the person; for one example, half the VS sprites I've done so far, I haven't gotten any reaction from the recipient for. It's killed my motivation to work on the rest. Again, I'm not going to name anyone, but those who I am talking about know who they are. And if they don't... well, it only confirms that my efforts were ignored.

I'm sorry, but I can't think of any way to put this that would be more polite while still getting the message across.

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#9397: Dec 28th 2012 at 10:26:22 AM

Blah, derp. Sorry about that, Eskay. I really did mean to say thank you for the Vs. Sprite. I saw it right before going out for a family Christmas function, and forgot to say something when I got back. /^_^;;

Umbramatic Meet The New Boss from WAAPT usually, sometimes WHABP or maybe PEFE Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Meet The New Boss
#9398: Dec 28th 2012 at 10:26:47 AM

Moon, I also apologize, and acknowledge life is more important than stuff like this. (Though there's nothing wrong with noting stuff while catching up.) And I think you're a pretty good R Per.

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Sixthhokage1 Since: Feb, 2013
#9399: Dec 28th 2012 at 10:29:10 AM

Eskay:Well, once you get VS!Jeff done I know I'd appreciate it, but I don't want to rush you.

Moon:I'm pretty much the same. You just worded it better than I could :P

(Dammit Kindle, I hit "Send", not the Creative Commons licensing link, work right you stupid glass and plastic brick >_<)

edited 28th Dec '12 10:31:09 AM by Sixthhokage1

Eskay64 Since: Nov, 2010
#9400: Dec 28th 2012 at 10:31:53 AM

Apology accepted. And thinking about it, the others that I haven't gotten responses for have been due to inactivity in general... So sorry to those people.

However, I'm still agreeing with Umbra that "I have no opinion" is a bad thing to say, at least on the bigger stuff. I suppose saying "It's good" would work, because it at least acknowledges its existence without the person saying they particularly liked it.


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