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Sixthhokage1 Since: Feb, 2013
#9076: Dec 14th 2012 at 4:32:07 PM

Don't be, we're getting issues sorted out now

Crewe Li'l Punk from Gravity Falls, Oregon Since: Apr, 2010
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#9077: Dec 14th 2012 at 4:39:00 PM

All right y'all, listen up. We've got some solutions up in here.

/stupidity

Ahem. So, after some discussion, we have a proposed (and accepted by several players) solution to the sign up dilemma.

Rather than use a system like Umbra's, we can just add an RP Sample section onto the end of the signup sheet. There would be a prompting post (probably the same for each, almost definitely a battle of some kind) that the signer-upper responds to in this section.

Using this method, we can vet out crimes against grammar/spelling, make note of godmodders/powerplayers/etc., and ask them to improve before allowing them in.

Presumably, the RP Sample would be allowed to be edited to allow for improvements.

Sound good? I think it's much simpler.

Tangentially related: I think we should make a proper sign up thread. We can store the sign up sheet there, store links to the chats, wiki, second forum, and essay there, and spell out, in no uncertain terms, what our expectations and requirements are, rather than have three people haphazardly throw some links and a form at them.

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BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#9078: Dec 14th 2012 at 4:43:02 PM

Crewe: A Sign-Up thread is a good idea. We really should have done that long ago.

Maybe a two-on-two battle as the test? Something that won't take particularly long, but still long enough to throw some curveballs to test.

strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#9079: Dec 14th 2012 at 4:46:19 PM

Yeah, I used to have to dig through the thread to find the sign up sheet link, and the joining thing on the wiki is kinda lacking. A sign up thread would be great.

One thing to note though, is that we'd likely get a surge of maybe 3-4 people joining at once once the thread is made.

Umbramatic Meet The New Boss from WAAPT usually, sometimes WHABP or maybe PEFE Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#9080: Dec 14th 2012 at 7:14:27 PM

Just saying I really like Crewe's idea, and its a great alternative to mine.

Wolf, I'd like to apologize for being passive-aggressive to you earlier.

EDIT: And I fully support a real signup thread.

(Also, we should clean up the trope page to reflect the current state of the RP, it has hardly any recent events.)

edited 14th Dec '12 7:20:23 PM by Umbramatic

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BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#9081: Dec 14th 2012 at 7:27:38 PM

It's okay. I guess I sometimes seem kind of snobby by not doing those things? I honestly don't mean it that way. My reluctance to participate in some of the non-main-thread stuff has a lot to do with keeping my sanity intact, and having hobbies that I also enjoy that aren't the RP. You know?

As a peace offering, I give you this: the official localization of "Iris". It's "Ylisse".

edited 14th Dec '12 7:28:36 PM by BadWolf21

Umbramatic Meet The New Boss from WAAPT usually, sometimes WHABP or maybe PEFE Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#9082: Dec 14th 2012 at 7:31:50 PM

Ah... It's fine.

And ooh. :3

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#9083: Dec 14th 2012 at 8:10:39 PM

All right, just like Full Moon did, I'll be bringing my PC from Pokemon: The RP into WAAPT as an Anti!Counterpart to Alyssa.*

Player

  • Name: Jessica Neva
  • Age: 15, almost 16
  • Hometown: Vermillion City
  • Appearance:
    • Very long red hair (but nowhere near as long as Alyssa's), gold eyes, a denim jacket over a purple shirt, and denim shorts. Does Not Like Shoes.
  • Personality:
    • Kind and energetic, not one to pass up lighthearted snark when she gets the chance.
  • Backstory:
    • Until two months ago, Jessica lived a normal life. Until two months ago, she wasn't really all that interested in the whole "trainer" thing. But two months ago, she learned that her parents had been caught in a sudden storm at sea on the way to Hoenn for a vacation, drowning in the disaster. After about a month of depression, she decided to stop grieving and actually try to carry on with life. The best way to go about doing this, she figured, was to become a trainer.

Pokemon

  • Name: Sunset
  • Species: Larvesta
  • Gender: Female
  • Personality:
    • Shy and introverted, made even more so by the fact that her only "family" can't understand her.
  • Backstory:
    • When Jessica's parents went on their fatal vacation, they left a Larvesta egg in her care. This Larvesta hatched, and is currently her only Pokemon.

edited 14th Dec '12 8:11:19 PM by BittersweetNSour

Umbramatic Meet The New Boss from WAAPT usually, sometimes WHABP or maybe PEFE Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#9084: Dec 14th 2012 at 10:08:34 PM

Okeydokes, I wrote a draft for a Signup thread OP, and will likely set it up soon... but posting a paste for now for feedback:

http://pastebin.tropi.us/dp

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memyselfandI2 Dunsparce Cloud from The Biosphere Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
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#9085: Dec 14th 2012 at 10:12:42 PM

In the grand tradition of everyone taking breaks, the first day or two will more or less totally violate it...

Umbra: Seems pretty good. No suggestions from me.

Dunsparce didn't stop being a thing or anything.
BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#9086: Dec 14th 2012 at 10:17:20 PM

I would put the list as spinoff games, anime, TCG, and manga, personally, if only for the sake of accuracy in what we actually use as inspiration.

Don't make the joke about gender. On the off chance that someone who doesn't identify as either gender wants to join, it's a little tasteless.

Make a note that anime towns are considered canon, and that the town they come from can be a smaller, nameless town as long as it's in a known Region (as is Tagg's).

The intro to the 'mons section could use some work. It feels a little bit rushed. Try rephrasing the bit about how many Pokemon they should start with (something feels a little off about the wording), and rewriting the bit about understanding Pokemon. Something more straightforward like "Most characters in the RP can understand and speak to their Pokemon, but much like being a member of PEFE, this ability probably needs to be earned in-RP, although exceptions can be discussed."

Nicknames are not "very much preferred". I understand that there are a lot of Pokemon in the RP now, so names are helpful, but the games don't judge you for not naming your Pokemon, so neither should we.

Remember that knowing their starter is supposed to be a requirement.

Also, perhaps indicating that the RP test will be a battle situation would be a good idea.

Those are my notes!

edited 14th Dec '12 10:28:47 PM by BadWolf21

Umbramatic Meet The New Boss from WAAPT usually, sometimes WHABP or maybe PEFE Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#9087: Dec 14th 2012 at 10:24:42 PM

Wolf: First thing changed. Second one, too, though that was directed at those who would play robots or something.

Will edit the third one as well.

edited 14th Dec '12 10:25:19 PM by Umbramatic

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BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#9088: Dec 14th 2012 at 10:28:56 PM

Added more.

I understand the joke about robots, but this is the internet. You can never really be too careful.

edited 14th Dec '12 10:29:47 PM by BadWolf21

Umbramatic Meet The New Boss from WAAPT usually, sometimes WHABP or maybe PEFE Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#9089: Dec 14th 2012 at 10:30:21 PM

Editing all those in.

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BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#9090: Dec 14th 2012 at 10:31:09 PM

Also, a non-changing-your-post idea: we should probably take turns doing the sign-up battles.

Oh, one last note. Make mention of the fact that sign-ups are never truly "closed", but that certain story arcs may be closed to you if you join too close to their start date.

edited 14th Dec '12 10:33:38 PM by BadWolf21

memyselfandI2 Dunsparce Cloud from The Biosphere Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
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#9091: Dec 14th 2012 at 10:34:04 PM

IMO the battle situation should just be a simple: "How would you respond to this post?" to test grammar, spelling, punctuation, and whether they'd godmod/powergame the situation. Maybe a bit more if we're unsure.

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BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#9092: Dec 14th 2012 at 10:36:23 PM

I think it's very difficult to tell that last one with only one post. A short battle scenario shouldn't be too difficult to set up.

memyselfandI2 Dunsparce Cloud from The Biosphere Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
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#9093: Dec 14th 2012 at 10:39:56 PM

Hm. I suppose.

Dunsparce didn't stop being a thing or anything.
Umbramatic Meet The New Boss from WAAPT usually, sometimes WHABP or maybe PEFE Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#9094: Dec 14th 2012 at 10:42:12 PM

OK, added the bit on arcs. Should I post thread now or wait?

edited 14th Dec '12 10:43:23 PM by Umbramatic

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BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#9095: Dec 14th 2012 at 10:44:55 PM

Well, I'd say it's fine, but then, you changed all the things I said to. :P

I'd give it a little bit more time, to let the others see it.

Umbramatic Meet The New Boss from WAAPT usually, sometimes WHABP or maybe PEFE Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#9096: Dec 14th 2012 at 10:46:20 PM

OK, will wait for other's thoughts tomorrow.

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crowlover from a Jolly Caucus Race Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
#9097: Dec 15th 2012 at 5:41:00 AM

Just read over the signup proposal and it looks fine to me.

As for the R Ping sample, I think Wolf's suggestion of a battle could work, though I think it would be better if it's 1-vs-1 rather than 2-vs-2, because battles can take a while, and I'm not sure if there would be much more that we couldn't identify in a 1-vs-1 battle.

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Umbramatic Meet The New Boss from WAAPT usually, sometimes WHABP or maybe PEFE Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#9098: Dec 15th 2012 at 9:24:45 AM

Added, Crow.

Also, after trawling for a little more feedback, it's up.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13555917160A75440100

Future suggestions can be incorporated by editing.

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BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#9099: Dec 15th 2012 at 9:27:24 AM

Put un-wiki-wording brackets around the words "WAAPTer", "RPing", and "NPCs".

Also

no single GM - different plots

edited 15th Dec '12 9:29:55 AM by BadWolf21

Umbramatic Meet The New Boss from WAAPT usually, sometimes WHABP or maybe PEFE Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#9100: Dec 15th 2012 at 9:35:27 AM

Got it.

Also adding Silent's "rolling updates" idea.

Should I add a Discussion Thread link, or do they find that themselves?

edited 15th Dec '12 10:39:15 AM by Umbramatic

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