So, the current situation is that apparently people want me banned from the RP. The reasoning for this is that I refuse to accept defeat in arguments. While yes, that is true, it is implying that it is wrong to fight for what you believe in, and in this case it's not anything subjective like religious faith. Better yet, they all refuse to even try and compromise, with the general reasoning being that it was written that way, so it shouldn't be changed. This includes right now, where after a warning that was specifically not an eviction notice, I defended my case, and soon got a reply that was very much an eviction notice. I asked for proof of the person in particular being authorized to give said notice, and the only person who bothered to say anything besides "Yes," helpfully told me that the personnel's paraphrasing of the conversation was antagonistic of me, claiming that I lashed out at them. I never, at any point, insulted them, or did anything to the likewise, and I can prove it with the conversation itself.
tl;dr, I'm under trial of banning and I feel that it shouldn't happen because of falsifying information about, lying to, lack of warning within an acceptable time to, and refusal to cooperate or compromise with myself.
This signature is empty. Nothing to see here.To summarize: In the chat conversations, Tropeless has had a habit of nitpicking irrelevant plot details, and continuing arguments well past the other members' patience. It has been wearing down the spirits of several members, including DS and Eskay, and has driven both Anom and Luke out of the chats entirely.
Tropeless, you have not responded well to private talks about your behavior, and the way you have chosen to open your post is not helping. It is very much appropriate to compromise when working in a group, and complaining about things like distribution of magical artifacts you have no imminent plans for use of is not worth arguing about for any length of time. It's crazymaking, and you need to understand the effect you are having on certain other people.
edited 22nd Oct '12 8:29:51 PM by Tangent128
Do you highlight everything looking for secret messages?Wolf: Much of this was through private messages, both here and in the chats.
Tangent: Except you haven't compromised at all. Every complaint that's been brought up since I've joined has had zip done about it, with the exception of the ones against me that required unconditional surrender. You may see me as "the new guy," (which isn't even true any more as I've been here for three months now) but, I've been doing Pokemon Roleplays with drastically fanon elements for almost four and a half years now. Admittedly, I can't have expected respect from that since I've mentioned none of the sort before, but you should keep in mind that sometimes Dumbass Has a Point, and that sometimes they're not a dumbass at all.
Also, I have noticed that you have edited Luke into your statement, who I do believe left because his views on how a Pokemon RP should be done didn't match up with WAAPT's, he really had nothing to do, and because nobody would talk to him about his own RP (which was suggested by WAAP Ters in the first place), A.K.A. not through me.
By the way, it'd be nice to have the armbands available for use for when I, or anyone, do make plans to use one, in such a way that the plans do not become "visit person x to borrow their armband for the specific use, and then return it, even though said person can use it all they want."
This signature is empty. Nothing to see here.All right, story time.
I'm aware that Tangent already said most of this, but I'm taking my own stand, as the primary victim.
Wolf, I know you don't consistently read the logs, so here's the story of the past.
Over the several months Tropeless has been with us, he's had his share of opinions. There have been disagreements, but that's normal.
The reason for this? Well, that's a bit more to explain.
Fairly early on, I noticed a significant lack of tact. The first instance: he would constantly complain about people not updating the wiki. I was the first to express irritation. And several people agreed with me; the rest of us had better things to do than focus on something we've been able to post several thousand pages worth of RP without.
After that stopped, he started complaining about the plot moving without him. To remedy this, he picked up his own pace... then complained about otherss not being able to keep up with him. Our response was, to put it in easy-to-understand words, "Make up your damn mind". It had an effect... but not much; the complaining carried on.
Then came the nitpicking. Complaining about RP mechanics when they didn't match the games' engine. The thing is, he himself was using tactics that were just as "inaccurate" – using Substitute or Protect to cover mons other than the user come to mind. And that wasn't all. Things such as RP!Psyche's ear damage came up, which the rest of us were able to quite easily ignore for the sake of a good story. This one particularly irritated me... because a large percent of the time, I was the victim.
The worst part? He simply wouldn't let it go.
Even after multiple people have told him "[Detail X] doesn't matter" multiple times each, he still kept complaining. It got to the point where even DS – we all recognize her as a very patient mediator – told him, and I quote, "Ugh, just shut up..."
In short, it's been taken too far.
Now, to the less public part.
Those of us who wanted Tropeless gathered in Needs Love, and came up with the agreement that Tropeless needed to "Shape up or ship out." Our ever-so-slight hope that he would choose to shape up was instantly shot down; I didn't get the exact response, but Every said it was disappointing. We gave him two more P Ms to choose "Shape up", but again, he argued. So we decided not to be merciful anymore.
The official agreement was "Goodbye". And several of us agreed, "Good riddance."
And as you can plainly see, he's once again showing his severe misunderstanding of authority.
I was once told that majority rule tended to leave a bitter aftertaste. In this case, however, the majority ruled that majority should rule.
I will take my final sentence with as much sincerity as possible.
Please try to adjust your behaviour so this doesn't have to happen again elsewhere; today of all days, I learned just how much of an impact a mistake can make in one place, and a second offense can and will ruin lives.
That is all.
Wait, wait, wait- your "majority rule" was based solely on what Every thought of my responses?That's not a majority rule. That's a single person's rule backed, blindly, I may add, by a majority of the people. That's nothing but a fraud, and a sham. I think we should make a new decision after this discussion is over, based off of the defendant's words and not the prosecutor's.
On the supposed hypocrisy of mine, I don't consider them equal. Giving a Substitute directly to another Pokemon (which is only averting the use of Baton Pass) is by far not as inaccurate as, say, averting type immunities without the aid of anything (and type match-ups are a very key aspect to Pokemon). I know that there's already a line where things are unacceptable, like the time-travelling train, and I imagine that something like the latter would cross that line.
And as for the ear incident, I will remind you that 1) I wasn't the one who complained about it, and A) You carried it just as much as I did, as it takes two to argue.
But, reflecting on the situation, I am reminded of a Minecraft server I used to frequent (for the record, I lost interest and was not banned) where I had a position of authority. I have realized that I am indeed being a hypocrite, and I would probably kick myself repeatedly or outright ban myself if what I have done here was done in said server during my presence. For that, I feel that the ban is somewhat deserved, but the desperation in me compels me to appeal it. It's definitely fun being in a Pokemon RP, and from what I've heard there aren't many good ones out there, but as you may know, I have an ASD, and it is definitely kicking my ass right now. Going from the top to the bottom sucks hard.
I conclude in tears, and hope that this doesn't seem like too much of a pity me card, something I have attested against in the past.
This signature is empty. Nothing to see here.For your first point, no. That was not what I was referring to. The majority ruled that your only choices would be "shape up" or "ship out". Anything else would be interpreted as "refusing to shape up" – something I, not Every, suggested, and everyone agreed upon – and therefore counted as "ship out". Again, we stopped being merciful.
i'll save you the trouble of pointing out the flaws in your next two points; as you said, it takes two to argue, and I'm deciding not to be the first of the two.
As requested, we will not be taking this as a "pity me" card. Our opinion on the matter hasn't changed one bit. Our viewpoint is universal, so I'll say this once more.
Goodbye, Tropeless.
And now, for the obligatory edit...
Wolf: I fully understand your concerns...
but we already gave him three chances in a row, when we said it would only be one.
I'm sorry.
edited 23rd Oct '12 4:21:14 AM by Eskay64
Well, we didn't ask him, but he did comment.
Well, that's why I brought it up, so we could decide.
Choicewise, I'd be fine with either this or Umbra's Ghost Army idea, but I'll save between choosing between them until it comes down to a vote.
edited 23rd Oct '12 10:26:07 AM by crowlover
"Don't worry, murder is a sign of affection." - An amalgamation of DunsparceEskay: The problem is, the warning was about arguing with everyone, and I wasn't arguing with everyone in those messages, not willingly. It was a Secret Test of Character where the answer sheet was for a different test than the one given, and you've decided to count me wrong on the answers anyway. You might have also decided to use what I'm doing right now as an example, but since this isn't a "trivial" RP matter, it's not on the test I was given either.
This signature is empty. Nothing to see here.Tropeless: The problem is also that you refused to acknowledge that your behavior was adversely affecting other people. You could have chosen to apologize for your actions and taken steps to change. You did not. I'm sorry that this is necessary, but you are now being asked to leave. Please do so.
Star: There was, it was rather awesome.
Dunsparce didn't stop being a thing or anything.Before I say anything else in this post, I will say something in advance: I'm sorry.
Now, for the reason.
When I first found this RP, I figured I'd join just as a fun side activity. Something to use the time I would otherwise spend bored out of my mind. Quickly, I became very fond of the community, and became a full member.
One of the first less-convenient parts I realized was our most common complaint: "Effing time zones."
Not wanting to miss out on any chances various people gave for different interactions, I started spending as much time as possible here. It quickly started consuming incredible portions of my days.
It evolved from a hobby to a habit... to an addiction.
It eventually affected the more important parts of my life; I'd spend time here rather than doing my homework when I was supposed to, took five-minute breaks from pretty much everything just to post something... and my grades started falling.
My parents noticed my struggling in school, and in an attempt to help me, they started limiting my access to this site. It helped for a bit... but then the addiction took over. I started trying to find ways around the limits. And I succeeded.
And I gradually lost all respect from them.
The various times I've told you I've been grounded, they were indeed my own fault. I've blamed it on "misunderstandings"and the like, but I'm admitting now that those times were to avoid losing respect from you all. In short... I've lied to everyone here at least once. And I direct you briefly to the first sentence of this post before continuing; I really am sorry.
They say TV Tropes Will Ruin Your Life. They're right; I'm experiencing it firsthand.
So that's why I have something to announce. I will be taking an indefinite break from the entirety of this RP. I will return, but the timeframe is "when I set things right." I have absolutely no idea how long that will take.
Finally, a request.
In my absence, please do not let my characters completely disappear; in the past when I've requested it, I managed to get on frequently enough at school to keep them barely existing myself. This time, in an effort to keep myself from stumbling back in, I'll be resisting any chances I get. Perhaps I'll take a few minutes every couple days or so to catch up on what I've missed... as well as desperately hope someone attempted to keep me going.
I promise, I will return before any important stuff involving me happens; I'll work to keep myself well in time for Rt AU, as well as giving myself a bit of time to do my final plan for Kanjoh; it'll be running on the assumption that the end point will be mid-December. I may not be able to actually start the Manipulative!Eskay subplot I was leading up to the last few days... although honestly, the entire idea was based on this very situation, specifically the "deceiving those who trusted me" bits... As I've said before, a lot of what I do is a reflection of something in real life.
So, with that done, I guess it's goodbye for now... I'll miss you all, but this needs to happen. I'm thankful my dad was generous enough to allow this final post... so here's to hoping I climb back up, and don't fall down again.
My final words are again... I'm sorry.

The information is, as I understand, classified, but it will hopefully wear off in a few weeks.
Dunsparce didn't stop being a thing or anything.