But that way you can't see the individual character entries with the folders closed. Isn't there a way to at least make the indent markup work for folders without causing them to spit out their content, like it does now?
Regulated fun - the best kind! I don't make the rules, just enforce them with an iron fist.I don't imagine that it will often (if ever) come up such that there is a significant number of shared tropes (to the point that the shared tropes were getting their own section) but the division is non-obvious to someone familiar with the work in question.
As for the non-character page situation, I don't entirely understand what sort of situation you're talking about. Can you give an example?
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I don't think I understand your first paragraph. What shared tropes has to do with this? Actually, what is 'shared tropes'?
What I meant is that, if all folders are closed, people won't be able to see which characters are inside a particular folder. Usually, the folders would be categorized by herds, which normally would allow someone familiar to the work to know which characters are there. However, this is not aways obvious, and may leave the reader wondering which character is inside a particular folder (forcing the reader to open the folder to know). If all folders are listed even when they are closed, this won't be an issue.
Kill was originally talking about cases where a given Cast Herd had enough tropes in common to put a section of the shared tropes before any of the original character entries. My point is that if there are enough tropes in common that they should get a full section, the identities of the characters in that Cast Herd should be straightforward. If, on the other hand, there are not many shared tropes, it's probably easier to list the tropes for each character and give them each their own folder.
If for some reason the Herd has many shared tropes but its members not obvious, it may just be easier to give each herd a section heading and have folders for the individual characters. I think that far too many character pages are formatted such that the entire page collapses down into half a dozen lines when the folders are closed as though we're paying by the folder or something. Rather, the characters should be split into folders in a maximally useful way, which may mean that some characters get their own folders.
In short, I think creatively using the existing tech will handle >99% of cases, making an overhaul of the folder code unnecessary.
edited 26th May '11 11:31:44 PM by Ironeye
I'm bad, and that's good. I will never be good, and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me.

So we have multiple levels of bullet points, numbered lists, quotes and headings, but only one level of folders. I realise they are not particularly needed most of the time, but I've come across at least one case where nested folders would help organise things better.
Series with Loads And Loads Of Characters tend to have Cast Herds. Members of a certain herd will often have tropes in common, so rather than list them every time in the character sheet, people will sometimes make a general section for the group with its own description, example list, possibly a group shot image and then add sub-sections for each specific character.
That's not a particular problem when using headings, because they have hierarchy. But when someone decides to use folders instead suddenly you have no way to easily tell the difference between the general section and the sub-sections, or where one cast herd ends and another begins.
Some kind of master folders that have a distinguishable font and indent the sub-folders within them (The regular indentation markup seems to break the folders) would solve this issue. You can also make the parent folder double as the folder control for the child folders, so you wouldn't need to click twice to open the one you want.
Regulated fun - the best kind! I don't make the rules, just enforce them with an iron fist.