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alliterator How dare you? from Southern California Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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Aug 25th 2019 at 11:30:12 AM

Oh, nice. Okay, theories about who he is playing:

  • First and only guess: Nemesis. It just seems totally like a role he would play.

"What, you think I won't fight a dinosaur? Are you crazy? All I want to do is fight dinosaurs." — Squirrel Girl
Larkmarn Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
Aug 26th 2019 at 5:37:34 AM

[up][up][up] Yes, because Gunn casting a known actor in a role with limited lines is entirely out of character.

Edited by Larkmarn on Aug 26th 2019 at 8:38:33 AM

Aug 27th 2019 at 12:41:25 PM

Taika Waititi is in talks for a role in the Suicide Squad sequel/reboot.

Aug 27th 2019 at 6:34:26 PM

New Harley Quinn and Wonder Woman 1984 images shown off at a licensing expo.

AlleyOop Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Aug 27th 2019 at 6:47:24 PM

I'm thinking it'll be as a character more than a behind-the-scenes role.

Aug 27th 2019 at 7:08:29 PM

Well, yes. It's specified he's playing someone, it just hasn't been revealed who yet.

Perhaps he'll reprise his role from the beloved Green Lantern movie.

AlleyOop Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Aug 27th 2019 at 8:35:27 PM

Would make for some interesting Canon Welding if so. Now that the Expanded Universe has found some success perhaps the abortive original attempt to launch would find some new life between this film and Deadpool 2's.

Aug 29th 2019 at 11:08:49 AM

Andy Muschietti confirms he's directing Flash (for now at least) and says don't expect any horror elements in it:

When we followed up to ask if his Flash movie would contain horror elements similar to the IT movies, Muschietti seemingly shot that down. “An element if horror? I don’t think so. What captivated me about the Flash is the human drama in it,” he said. “The human feelings and emotions that play in the drama [of it]. It’s going to be fun, too. I can’t promise that there will be any horror [elements in it], really, but it’s a beautiful human story.”

Sep 3rd 2019 at 10:20:28 AM

Peter Capaldi and Pete Davidson have joined the cast of The Suicide Squad.

alliterator How dare you? from Southern California Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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Sep 3rd 2019 at 10:42:32 AM

Holy crap, yes. Peter Capaldi!

"What, you think I won't fight a dinosaur? Are you crazy? All I want to do is fight dinosaurs." — Squirrel Girl
Lyendith I'm not insane, I'm not… not insane! from Bègles, France Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
I'm not insane, I'm not… not insane!
Sep 3rd 2019 at 10:59:12 AM

…Man, there's gonna be a lot of characters in this movie, isn't there…

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Sep 6th 2019 at 6:38:07 PM

According to Jeff Sneider of The Wrap, Matt Reeves apparently met with Mahershala Ali about playing Commissioner Gordon.

However, he cautions that Ali likely won't end up in the part after taking the Blade role.

alliterator How dare you? from Southern California Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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Sep 6th 2019 at 11:17:36 PM

Ah, really? Damn, I liked JK Simmons as Gordon.

"What, you think I won't fight a dinosaur? Are you crazy? All I want to do is fight dinosaurs." — Squirrel Girl
Sep 7th 2019 at 10:39:13 AM

I think it's fairly obvious by now this is not gonna be a prequel to the Snyder films and will probably recast most, if not everyone.

alliterator How dare you? from Southern California Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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Sep 7th 2019 at 10:44:48 AM

They can still use some of the same actors, even if it's not a prequel. Case in point: JK Simmons also played J Jonah Jameseon in Spider-Man: Far From Home, even though it's a total reboot from the Raimi films in which he also played JJJ.

"What, you think I won't fight a dinosaur? Are you crazy? All I want to do is fight dinosaurs." — Squirrel Girl
Sep 7th 2019 at 12:13:44 PM

The difference is people really loved J.K. Simmons' Jameson, as well as Raimi's Spider-Man films in general. Justice League was a flop and Gordon was barely in it, so it's not surprising they're recasting that part.

Edited by comicwriter on Sep 7th 2019 at 9:02:58 AM

alliterator How dare you? from Southern California Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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Oct 5th 2019 at 10:24:59 AM

Zack Snyder has revealed that the Martian Manhunter was supposed to be in Justice League and even revealed that there was supposed to be a twist where he was a character we had already seen before: General Swanwick, played by Harry Lennix.

Sigh. Okay, putting aside that Snyder seems to be doling out these things in bits and pieces, teasing the fanbase rather than just, I don't know, releasing everything at once or something, I actually do like this idea. Harry Lennix is a great actor and I can see him playing J'onn really well, either as Swanwick or mocapped. Plus, he's a character we've already been introduced to, so the introduction can be shorter.

The problem, however, is that now you are introducing another character into the group and he's a character that has, basically, the same powers as Superman. Unless the Martian Manhunter was going to be nerfed somehow, there's not a lot of reasons for the group to resurrect Superman (aside from, you know, having Superman there).

But all of this would have meant another character in a movie that was already overstuffed with characters, none of which have had their own movies except for Superman and Batman. And Snyder hadn't even filmed the scenes with Lennix:

Before stepping away from Justice League due to family loss and handing the reins over to Whedon, Snyder confirmed he'd shot Martian Manhunter's story - apart from the scenes with Lennix.
Yeah, "apart from the scenes with Lennix" means that he hadn't filmed the story, since Lennix is the character.

So, apparently Snyder's version of Justice League would have been 214 minutes (that's three and a half hours, longer than even than Avengers: Endgame) and included:

All of which sounds good (aside from the 214 minutes), but inside sources called it "unwatchable" and test audiences ranked Batman and Superman as the lowest of the main cast. It definitely seems as if the movie was an overstuffed nightmare and either should have been trimmed a lot or divided up into two films. Which also probably wouldn't have worked.

This isn't even going into Snyder's apparent ideas for Justice League 2 and 3. Apparently, Justice League 2 was going to be inspired by Final Crisis. It also would have ended with the Justice League defeated and the Earth devastated, with Snyder comparing it to the end of Infinity War, and Justice League 3 would have been set in the "Knightmare" world from BVS completely.

Edited by alliterator on Oct 5th 2019 at 10:29:54 AM

"What, you think I won't fight a dinosaur? Are you crazy? All I want to do is fight dinosaurs." — Squirrel Girl
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Oct 5th 2019 at 10:43:49 AM

They really were going fast forward with the universe. Even with the issues JL already had, that sounds like a movie where you can't develop anything and no time for the events to sink in, and that's before looking at the narrative.

Tuckerscreator from Traveling through the Multiverse Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Oct 5th 2019 at 2:15:19 PM

Nothing to see here.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Oct 5th 2019 at 2:17:06 AM

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TargetmasterJoe Much more than meets the eye! from The City, USA Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
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Oct 5th 2019 at 6:12:47 PM

[up][up][up] Ehhhhhhhhh. Not sure if it'd be a hot idea to have your team of heroes outright lose when things are already pretty dispirited. Infinity War could do it because we were used to the MCU heroes having some silver lining of hope, which made Thanos' victory all the more impactful.

Yeah, probably for the best that Snyder got booted off when he did. I'm sorry he had to deal with a huge loss in his family, but BVS was showing he wasn't the best at big-time superhero movies.

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Oct 5th 2019 at 6:34:30 PM

All this information is largely speculative, we know broad ideas but don't know exactly how things would play out in practice if they went through with it. It was also seemingly intended to be spread out over a number of years, with Aquaman, Flash, Shazam and Cyborg solo movies in between so it's unlikely the first movie was going to be an outright cliffhanger.

Honestly, diving in to the DCU like they did turned out to be the best thing for them to do. Building the universe one at a time was not working out. We wouldn't have gotten Wonder Woman or Aquaman if they didn't do the character drop in BVS. They had an advantage over other works like Dark Universe in that they did have one modestly received movie to start with and higher audience anticipation for the characters, which culminated in confident character introductions.

alliterator How dare you? from Southern California Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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Oct 5th 2019 at 6:43:35 PM

Building the universe one at a time was not working out.
Except they didn't even try to do this. They went from Man of Steel directly to Batman v Superman, which introduced Batman, Wonder Woman, the Flash, Aquaman, Cyborg, and the New Gods. While they got good reviews for Wonder Woman, rushing things made it worse for Suicide Squad and then for Justice League. That's one movie in five that got good reviews.

Edited by alliterator on Oct 5th 2019 at 6:45:01 AM

"What, you think I won't fight a dinosaur? Are you crazy? All I want to do is fight dinosaurs." — Squirrel Girl
unknowing from somewhere..
Oct 8th 2019 at 12:24:54 AM

I will said Sydner does have some good ideas but he need a editos or something who tone it down, it remind me a little bit to lucas in thata regard(and just that regard) someone who goes waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay overboard with stuff and suffer for it.

Funny thing is, I feel Wheedon suffer the same issue that Zack which is why it was a bad choice to Justice league.

I will said that DC at least feel their movie are diferent, I mean that was part of what some people(like myself) kinda wanted for them: that each movie have diferent feel because Marvel while good, does feel waaaaaay to samey after a while.

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Oct 8th 2019 at 6:43:55 AM

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