Justice League

RE: Batgirl. Yeah, her stories can be dark, but I would be surprised if they went with that direction considering the DCEU has spent the last few entries trying to move their public reputation away from darkness.

RE: Momoa. For context, more about the protests against the building of the Thirty Meter Telescope atop Mauna Kea. It's opposed by most native Hawaiians because the mountain is considered sacred and has numerous ancestral burial sites.

On the other hand the joker movie promise to be....something, so is hard to said what DC is going to do next.

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DC isn't moving away from darkness so much as offering variety.

Edited by windleopard on Aug 9th 2019 at 4:37:52 AM

Hard to said, specially since the last dark movie was wonder woman who was pretty much a smash hit(granted, WW manage to actually make a good optimisc movie using WW 1 as background) and since Bv S, SS and JL DC now have reputation of being a edgelord and so far it have release two more bombastic light movies.

Is hard to said if DC is going to do more dark movies.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"

Generally, it's better to just look at the characters and see the tone that fits them. Consider what'd make a good Green Lantern story, or one of Jonah Hex.

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That only work so far because many chararter have many story with vary degree of tones, look batman for example: he have being for super campy and light(adam west, brave and the bold), dark but tragic(Animated batman), superman-lite(Nolan trilogy) to sightly less insane crazy steve(Sydner).

I dont know if just setting tone for chararter works all the time.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"

Recently one of the producers mentioned they were going for tones that fit the characters instead of everything being excessively dark. That's why Joker looks to be very dark and gritty while Shazam was a much more traditional action-comedy. And also why I'd be willing to bet money whatever new Superman movie we eventually get (whether it be a reboot or less likely, a continuation of Cavill's story) will probably be lighter as well, while Reeves' Batman will likely be on the darker side.

If I had to guess I'd expect Batgirl to err on the more comedic side since Birds of Prey reportedly has a lot of humor in it.

Edited by comicwriter on Aug 9th 2019 at 1:42:34 AM

I will guess that quote kinda get lost in the super duper shitstorm that was Bv S broken base(remenber that thread here? bloody good times, haha) but after the backlash I dont know if DC will do any dark movie for a good while.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"

Joker is coming out pretty soon.

Joker have a time in production isnt? is not a new proyect.

Also Joker since to set apart of main universe which I dont think it can hold dark movies at all.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"

I wonder if a light-hearted take on Batman would be possible these days…

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…Huh, yeah, there's that I guess.

Edited by Lyendith on Aug 11th 2019 at 1:51:51 PM

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You are moving the goalposts now. Joker is still in post-production and hasn't come out, so it's still a new project. And DC is producing it, therefore it's a DC movie.

If you want another example, I'm pretty sure Matt Reeves' The Batman isn't going to be light and humorous. He's stated that he's taking a pretty noir approach.

Well I finally watched Justice League. It's...meh. Not too many strong feelings either way. Plenty of dumb stuff, bad CGI, questionable shots of Diana, but a few moments, beats and lines I liked. Not the worst superhero movie out there but I'm not sure what could convince me to watch it again.

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Wonder how much trouble caused having to introduce Arthur, Barry and Cyborg in what's supposed to be the big crossover movie.

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It's funny how rarely the Justice League movie is actually discussed in this thread.

It's basically become the "DC Extended Universe Thread 2.0", mostly because the old thread got locked. I guess the heat from all those Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice arguments has died down considerably, huh?

This was the DCEU's big issue. The Avengers was able to use one scene for each character as an introduction, since they had been introduced in previous films. In Justice League, however, all we had on those three was brief videos in BVS that...basically told us nothing except their powers. So instead of single scenes that established their characters before dropping them into the plot, the movie instead tried to build their characters alongside the plot, which itself wasn't very interesting. I have a feeling that a lot of the character beats were Whedon's and a lot of the plot stuff was...well, also Whedon, but going off of Snyder's designs. Neither one especially works, but the character parts at least try to be interesting — Batman's "Save one" speech to the Flash, the Flash and Cyborg digging up Superman's body and bonding over being "the accidents," and so on. If they had leaned in to those moments, if they had reduced the Motherbox plot even more, the movie might have worked. But probably not, because you still need a big plot for a movie like this and trying to establish the heroes and the plot at the same time just results in a mish-mash of things.

James Gunn enlightens us over whether Batman will be in The Suicide Squad or not.

Sounds like he's saying "No, he isn't. Stop asking if my not-Batman movie will have Batman. You want Batman, watch his movie m'kay?" without saying that exact phrase. Or maybe he's worded his response to encourage more speculation?

Hard to say, really.

I do really hope Pattinson!Batman turns out great though.

Was there really that much of a difference in that regard though? The DCEU had introduced Superman, Batman (although not in a solo movie) and Wonder Woman. By the time Avengers came out, the MCU had introduced Iron Man, Captain America and Thor. And the Hulk, but no one cared about that movie and the actor was different.

The main difference is that the characters weren't introduced beforehand (Hawkeye and Black Widow) weren't as important or iconic as the Flash or Aquaman.

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Both Hawkeye and Black Widow had been introduced beforehand — Black Widow in Iron Man 2 and Hawkeye in Thor. Yes, Hawkeye was only in one scene, but Black Widow had a large role in Iron Man 2.

Oh. I was pretty sure IM2 was in phase 2 for some reason…

Edited by Lyendith on Aug 13th 2019 at 6:46:07 PM

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Sounds like he's saying "No, he isn't. Stop asking if my not-Batman movie will have Batman. You want Batman, watch his movie m'kay?" without saying that exact phrase. Or maybe he's worded his response to encourage more speculation?

If that's what he is saying then I couldn't agree more. DC needs to stop shoving Batman into everything.

Another thing is that the Avengers also reused a villain and in a way to tie him into the new, overarching threat.

So they had to introduce Steppenwolf. On top of everyone else. Which... well, they split the difference by having a character so flat that he didn't need introducing, I guess.

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Wonder how much that'll weigh on the next Suicide Squad movie?

Or the Birds Of Prey.

Edited by Blueace on Aug 13th 2019 at 4:32:23 PM

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