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Yeah, because I just grabbed the first few posts I could find. I've seen lengthier, and again, by forum mods too as often as not.
It's temporary, to celebrate BotCon happening this weekend. Usually the color scheme is a lot tamer.
So be it, but this is literally the first non-Slashdot formatted place I've encountered that has an issue with it.
Like I said, I guess you'll have to tell me how to respond to multiple people, then, when arrows aren't sufficient for context. Multiple posts?
edited 4th Jun '11 8:54:54 AM by Jeysie
Apparently I am adorable, but my GF is my #1 Groupie. (Avatar by Dreki-K)- Troper A: You said <paraphrased>. I reply <and so on>
- Troper B: You said <Paraphrased>. Did you mean <question?>
- Troper C: What about <situation>? How does that fit with your statement that <statement>?
- and so on
Or
- Troper A, #6723; I disagree because <blah>
- Troper B, #6734; That's certainly the way I see it.
- Troper C, #6736; I'm assuming that you didn't see Troper B's post. He addresses that question.
edited 4th Jun '11 9:17:32 AM by Madrugada
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In the first case, I generally don't like paraphrasing because it risks an erroneous summary based on a bad interpretation (and thus flawed context), but I guess I could try to do it.
And the second case is utterly useless to anyone else trying to follow the whole conversation, unless the posts being replied to happen to be on the same page or otherwise easily found.
Because I was very taken aback at being told I could get my post ignored just for using what is commonly accepted post formatting everywhere else, so it put me off. But whatever, I guess...
edited 4th Jun '11 9:24:58 AM by Jeysie
Apparently I am adorable, but my GF is my #1 Groupie. (Avatar by Dreki-K)It is a bit overly harsh to react that way. It is extremely common and accepted around the net. Eddie may not like that style but that is the truth.
I don't like the quote pile and it would have been nice if maybe Hershlee broke it up a bit/condensed it or something.
You use it to show exactly what you are responding to in various conversations. It is little different from copy pasting the entire conversation in between quotations or using various available markups to distinguish what is not your words.
" See like this " Standardized response.
another point done like this.
Another Response.It is a simple ,effective, and common way to track the various parts of the convo. I have yet to see a single troll use that format.
Most trolls just use a charming wall of text filled with drek and garbage.
It is also rude to deliberately ignore a poster because they use a commonly accepted posting habit because you have a personal dislike for said habit.
Who watches the watchmen?Just throwing my two cents in, quoting post you are replying is accepted standard in following cases:
- Said post was done several post ago, with original poster having replied to someone else in meantime(say, you go sleep and conversation continues)
- You reply to numerous people
- Your reply goes to new page, thus making following the conversation easier.
You may not like it, but you can't call it trolling. Quote pyramids are annoying, but usualy people start cutting them after they grow 2-3 tall, only quoting most recent.
edited 4th Jun '11 11:07:16 AM by Mandemo
Quotes are useful if you want to address certain points from various posts instead of having to paraphrase, specify, "re: about so and so", and so on. I don't see how it's "trollish" aside from the fact that it's standard in most forums aside from this one.
I can also see the merits of this discussion in a thread about culture and behavior norms.
It's kinda hit-and-miss what is good amount. From my experience, 3(individual quotes) is good while having more is stretchign it. If you need more, it might be better using links to said post. I personally never were fans of "quote-inside-quote", AKA quote pyramid.
That might be good rule, max 3 quoteblocks. Anymore and you must link to post.
It helps in fast moving and active conversations though. Especially since the convo had advanced a fair amount by the time Hershlee came back it made sense to point out what he was specifically replying to. Granted there were quite a few in his post.
A 3 quote block rule of courtesy sounds fine to me.
Yeah no quote pyramids those are rather annoying.
Who watches the watchmen?Sometimes a coherent post works, but other times a more point-by-point approach makes more sense. It varies.
Having multiple quoteblocks can help prevent "quoting the entire post" syndrome, which does tend to be rather troll-like. (Or at least ignorant that you're supposed to edit out all but the most relevant bits you're actually responding to.)
And yeah, quote pyramids are the devil. A two-level is occasionally useful depending on how the convo is structured, but more than that is annoying.
Apparently I am adorable, but my GF is my #1 Groupie. (Avatar by Dreki-K)With a name like that, I kind of don't have to know what was thumped to know it's better I didn't see it.
...did that make any sense?
Anyway, while I can't give an example of responding to multiple posts, this
is a case of it being used to pick apart a single post. Which arguably is a more annoying use than using it to reply to multiple posts.
Annoying or not, it doesn't prevent the poster from having good points. Just means the reader is likely going to be less open to them, due to having to sort through it. Eddie just takes this a step further.
Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
Actually, I'm more open to a post formatted using quotes. Since it's way easier to follow the Context>Reply>Context>Reply that way, plus I have the exact words so that I'm operating from what was actually said versus a respondent's potentially incorrect summary.
The main factor is instead whether someone properly trims down what they're quoting.
I mean, it's the other way around—it's actually harder to sort through a post that has no context for replies, or a coherent post that's meant as a direct reply rather than just a general expression of thoughts.
Apparently I am adorable, but my GF is my #1 Groupie. (Avatar by Dreki-K)

edited 4th Jun '11 8:45:37 AM by chihuahua0