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breadloaf Since: Oct, 2010
#151: Apr 25th 2011 at 1:44:12 PM

Okay fine *some* are volunteers. Some of my friends' parents volunteered in any case.

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#152: Apr 25th 2011 at 1:46:33 PM

I think the cost per capita and organisation problems end up being around the same anyway.

I would imagine this to be the case.

Anyway, my original question got answered; advance polls are for everyone.

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breadloaf Since: Oct, 2010
#153: Apr 25th 2011 at 2:44:40 PM

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadavotes2011/story/2011/04/25/cv-election-morgentaler-harper.html

Pro-choice groups ask people not to vote conservative because of their record on abortion. Last week, a Tory MP announced they were going to defund Planned Parenthood because it provides abortion services. Harper refused to answer questions on it but has already refused to fund abortions in foreign aid to Maternity Health initiatives and may now be cutting funding to abortion services via Planned Parenthood.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadavotes2011/story/2011/04/25/cv-election-cap-trade-ad.html

Ignatieff lumps Layton (NDP) with the conservatives, saying they both have poor environmental stances.

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#154: Apr 25th 2011 at 2:46:46 PM

[up][up][up] Do you know what they did? Because that doesn't seem right...when you work at an election, you're technically employed by Elections Canada. Everyone at my poll station was being payed, so I'm curious as to what roles volunteers might fill.

edited 25th Apr '11 2:46:55 PM by BadWolf21

ninjaclown Since: May, 2009
#155: Apr 25th 2011 at 2:48:54 PM

Funny how Ignatieff is firing at the NDP now, when they're now making headway in Quebec. I guess anyone hoping for a coalition can kiss that goodbye. Odd since the NDP were encouraging people to vote Liberal in areas where it didn't look like the NDP were garnering much support.

thatguythere47 Since: Jul, 2010
#156: Apr 25th 2011 at 7:58:55 PM

I'm working election day, it's I think 16 an hour or something like that. Your parents could have volunteered to be a rep for one of the parties at the polls but everyone working there is getting paid.

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breadloaf Since: Oct, 2010
#157: Apr 26th 2011 at 9:03:55 AM

Hm, 16 an hour is not bad for people who have nothing else to do.

Well the more important thing is to go out and vote. The turnout last election was pretty piss poor.

breadloaf Since: Oct, 2010
#158: Apr 26th 2011 at 9:44:43 AM

DND is now saying that cost forecasts for the F-35 will go up but is insisting that the program will remain on budget.

However, the new report suggests that costs are even higher than what PBO has estimated originally.

edited 26th Apr '11 9:49:37 AM by breadloaf

breadloaf Since: Oct, 2010
#159: Apr 26th 2011 at 10:47:03 AM

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadavotes2011/story/2011/04/25/cv-election-harper-dossier.html

A 500-page binder of quotes, compiled ironically by the Conservatives, has been leaked by the Liberals to the public. These are all "potentially damaging" quotes by Harper that range from today to as far back as 1980s. Probably of the worst of them, are his suggestions that private healthcare should be allowed.

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#160: Apr 26th 2011 at 12:07:53 PM

I thought Canada had a private healthcare industry running alongside the public one? Don't most industrial countries have a model like that?

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#161: Apr 26th 2011 at 12:53:08 PM

We have a private health running parallel to our public one. It's just that our private health care system is located in the United States.

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thatguythere47 Since: Jul, 2010
#162: Apr 26th 2011 at 12:55:34 PM

there are private clinics but only in large cities and I don't think they preform any surgeries or the like.

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#163: Apr 26th 2011 at 1:05:52 PM

I think private clinics are now doing "cosmetic surgeries", IIRC.

And I think it was Erock who asked, I live in Halifax where it's one city with four universities, three colleges and not enough population to fill up even one of them, ooh boy we are very much a uni. town.

Advanced polls were very popular.

Zersk o-o from Columbia District, BNA Since: May, 2010
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#164: Apr 26th 2011 at 4:25:46 PM

Wait, what does Public health care cover again?

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breadloaf Since: Oct, 2010
#165: Apr 26th 2011 at 4:28:56 PM

Our healthcare is a single-payer universal system. So basically many medical services are privately run (such as family doctors and health clinics) but they only have one customer... the "Canadian people". The rate they get paid for the services they perform is set by the provinces, funded by provincial tax dollars (which are supplemented by Federal grants). So the doctors and so on themselves can be private, but they only get paid a set rate. In essence, the government controls the healthcare revenue and profit rate.

Coverage differs from province to province. For instance, OHIP, the one in Ontario doesn't cover pharmacare, dental, optometry, massages or anything cosmetic. I think sex-change is covered by OHIP again, it keeps flip flopping on that one.

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Advance poll numbers up 34% from last year. Over two million Canadians have used them!

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http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadavotes2011/story/2011/04/26/cv-election-f-35-costs-316.html

Harper dismisses the Department of National Defence that the cost of the jets will rise.

edited 26th Apr '11 4:30:00 PM by breadloaf

HopelessSituationWarrior Naïve Newcomer from Canada. The middle part. Since: Sep, 2010
#166: Apr 26th 2011 at 4:51:49 PM

Awesome letter from Canadian novelist Nino Ricci.

edited 26th Apr '11 4:52:01 PM by HopelessSituationWarrior

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#167: Apr 26th 2011 at 5:01:00 PM

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edited 26th Apr '11 5:03:59 PM by BestOf

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Zersk o-o from Columbia District, BNA Since: May, 2010
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#168: Apr 26th 2011 at 5:03:07 PM

Our healthcare is a single-payer universal system. So basically many medical services are privately run (such as family doctors and health clinics) but they only have one customer... the "Canadian people". The rate they get paid for the services they perform is set by the provinces, funded by provincial tax dollars (which are supplemented by Federal grants). So the doctors and so on themselves can be private, but they only get paid a set rate. In essence, the government controls the healthcare revenue and profit rate.

Coverage differs from province to province. For instance, OHIP, the one in Ontario doesn't cover pharmacare, dental, optometry, massages or anything cosmetic. I think sex-change is covered by OHIP again, it keeps flip flopping on that one.

Oh okay. Cause I live in BC and we have to pay here, so I was a bit curious if it was different everywhere else or something.

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#169: Apr 26th 2011 at 5:04:08 PM

Upon reading this thread, I had come to wonder how Canadians could have elected such a government and allowed it to stay in power for so long, but then I remembered the governments we've had since 2003 the early 90s WWII our independence in 1917 Ummm.... Let me fix that...

I had come to wonder how Canadians could have elected such a government and allowed it to stay in power for so long, but then I remembered the governments we've had.

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Zersk o-o from Columbia District, BNA Since: May, 2010
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#170: Apr 26th 2011 at 5:06:03 PM

There are about two voters in the country, and they're both conservative.

edited 26th Apr '11 5:06:10 PM by Zersk

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#171: Apr 26th 2011 at 5:07:37 PM

Sometimes I feel that Canada and Finland are actually the same country...

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Zersk o-o from Columbia District, BNA Since: May, 2010
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#172: Apr 26th 2011 at 5:10:35 PM

Snowy, Aboriginal groups, and a populace who don't think their vote'll count, eh?

edited 26th Apr '11 5:10:58 PM by Zersk

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#173: Apr 26th 2011 at 5:38:55 PM

I had come to wonder how Canadians could have elected such a government and allowed it to stay in power for so long, but then I remembered the governments we've had.

Really, I think any country with the usual representative democracy system tends to get a government that's corrupt and full of crooks. It seems any country with a democracy is going to have people bitching that all the candidates are idiots and liars.

So why did we elect this party? Well, I think if we elected any of the main parties, it'd be much the same. Charges of corruption, or wasting taxpayer money... Really, I think those problems seem inherit in any government system, no matter whose in power.

Bitter? Probably.

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Zersk o-o from Columbia District, BNA Since: May, 2010
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#174: Apr 26th 2011 at 5:40:39 PM

Representative? But we're parliamentary with a mix of constitutional democracy. Unless that's usual.

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#175: Apr 26th 2011 at 5:44:48 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the vast majority of modern democracies, out of necessity, are Representative Democracies. Perhaps called other things (I suspect every country has their own name for it.) but the idea is you elect somebody, or a group, to represent your interests. In a pure democracy, you'd be called upon to vote on everything. So instead, you just vote for a 'representative,' who does all the decision making, leaving you to keep working or living.

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