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BlackHumor Since: Jan, 2001
#51: Apr 3rd 2011 at 8:29:41 PM

@Major Tom: I take it you've never been outside of a developed country, then.

Houses never are built so shoddily they fall apart every day, but without a decent building code they do fall apart. And kill people.

EDIT @tnu: Sucks? Do you use roads or not? How about money?

Explain a way to do either of those privately without massive tolls on one or corrupting the entire concept of currency on the other.

edited 3rd Apr '11 8:31:28 PM by BlackHumor

LoniJay from Australia Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
#52: Apr 3rd 2011 at 8:29:58 PM

I still trust the government in terms of ideals. In terms of competence, maybe or maybe not, I'm not sure I'm qualified to judge whether they're competent or not.

But I definitely don't think the government is some sort of huge faceless inhuman thing that only wants to bleed me dry of money and stamp on my freedoms, the way a lot of Americans seem to.

It's just a group of human beings. With all the issues that come with that.

Be not afraid...
tnu1138 Dracula Since: Apr, 2009
Dracula
#53: Apr 3rd 2011 at 8:32:08 PM

It's on topic this topic is about distrust of the government and I’m voicing my distrust in their abilities. I never understood the expression "tinfoil hat" where did that originate?

edited 3rd Apr '11 8:40:04 PM by tnu1138

We must survive, all of us. The blood of a human for me, a cooked bird for you. Where is the difference?
BlackHumor Since: Jan, 2001
#54: Apr 3rd 2011 at 8:33:03 PM

(A parody of) conspiracy theorists. The idea is the tin stops the government from reading your mind.

tnu1138 Dracula Since: Apr, 2009
Dracula
#55: Apr 3rd 2011 at 8:34:09 PM

Huh I’ve actually never heard that one. Thanks for clearing that up. I'm just naturally wary of anything these days especially anything too organized.

edited 4th Apr '11 12:40:23 AM by tnu1138

We must survive, all of us. The blood of a human for me, a cooked bird for you. Where is the difference?
LoniJay from Australia Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
#56: Apr 3rd 2011 at 8:35:34 PM

Why is organisation a bad thing? Without it we wouldn't get anything done. Literally.

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CDRW Since: May, 2016
#57: Apr 3rd 2011 at 8:36:16 PM

I stopped trusting the government when Wisconsin tried to make it so unions couldn't bargain and Utah tried to make electronic records inaccessible to the public.

tnu1138 Dracula Since: Apr, 2009
Dracula
#58: Apr 3rd 2011 at 8:36:49 PM

Because it allows the organized body to coerce others. Tomu has painstakingly convinced me that humans are not meant to be social animals because of this. Or have no business existing since they can not develop otherwise.

edited 3rd Apr '11 8:44:25 PM by tnu1138

We must survive, all of us. The blood of a human for me, a cooked bird for you. Where is the difference?
MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#59: Apr 3rd 2011 at 8:38:26 PM

@Major Tom: I take it you've never been outside of a developed country, then.

Houses never are built so shoddily they fall apart every day, but without a decent building code they do fall apart. And kill people.

Ah the classic appeal like what happened in Haiti where the entire city of Port Au Prince folded in on itself and flattened liked a poorly stacked house of cards when a comparison city in Japan, the western US, Chile, and Peru would have survived a 7.0 quake relatively intact.

True building codes make for better buildings to withstand disasters. My point however was that the original "point" was phrased in such a way as to have you believe that despite 1000s of years of building experience, you can't build a house that will actually stay together on its own with nothing happening without the government brandishing the whip over the builders' heads.

DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven Since: Jan, 2011
#60: Apr 3rd 2011 at 8:40:15 PM

[up] Not so much that you can't, but that people would cut corners to save money, resulting in a unsafe building.

"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian
LoniJay from Australia Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
#61: Apr 3rd 2011 at 8:42:19 PM

[up][up][up] Everything humanity has achieved is because of us being social animals. If we were not social animals, we would still be living like the majority of animals still do. With no technology beyond a bent stick or two, and nothing resembling art or culture.

You can't separate the social aspect of humanity out. It's one of the most important things that defines us as a species.

edited 3rd Apr '11 8:42:30 PM by LoniJay

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tnu1138 Dracula Since: Apr, 2009
Dracula
#62: Apr 3rd 2011 at 8:47:36 PM

Point is when we orginize we hurt other humans and I feel kind of guilty about that you know?

edited 4th Apr '11 12:37:59 AM by tnu1138

We must survive, all of us. The blood of a human for me, a cooked bird for you. Where is the difference?
CDRW Since: May, 2016
#63: Apr 3rd 2011 at 8:49:18 PM

[up] It's all right, you'll get over the guilt. If there's anything we humans are good at it's ignoring guilt.

tnu1138 Dracula Since: Apr, 2009
Dracula
#64: Apr 3rd 2011 at 8:50:46 PM

Yeah should we start a new topic on the nature of humans as social animals?

We must survive, all of us. The blood of a human for me, a cooked bird for you. Where is the difference?
KCK Can I KCK it? from In your closet Since: Jul, 2010
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#65: Apr 3rd 2011 at 8:51:57 PM

@Tnu But we can hurt humans by not being organized, what's the point? Either way, someone isn't going to be happy.

There's no justice in the world and there never was~
tnu1138 Dracula Since: Apr, 2009
Dracula
#66: Apr 3rd 2011 at 8:53:19 PM

and on that note I really don't trust anyone anymore. It's a rather miserable existence.

edited 4th Apr '11 12:36:26 AM by tnu1138

We must survive, all of us. The blood of a human for me, a cooked bird for you. Where is the difference?
Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
DUMB
#67: Apr 3rd 2011 at 8:54:43 PM

The funny thing is, covering your whole body in tinfoil actually would work as a Faraday cage.

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tnu1138 Dracula Since: Apr, 2009
Dracula
#68: Apr 3rd 2011 at 8:55:34 PM

Faraday cage?

We must survive, all of us. The blood of a human for me, a cooked bird for you. Where is the difference?
Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
DUMB
#69: Apr 3rd 2011 at 8:57:51 PM

An enclosure that prevents transmission of EM radiation from the inside to the outside and vice versa. EM radiation includes radio signals from the gubbermint to control the Computer God computerized brainthinking sealed robot Frankenstein operating arm surgery cabinet known to you as your pancreas.

edited 3rd Apr '11 8:58:19 PM by Tzetze

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tnu1138 Dracula Since: Apr, 2009
Dracula
#70: Apr 3rd 2011 at 8:59:47 PM

That doesn't make me feel any less paranoid.

We must survive, all of us. The blood of a human for me, a cooked bird for you. Where is the difference?
Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
DUMB
#71: Apr 3rd 2011 at 9:00:24 PM

If you can take Mr. Dec seriously, I can't help you.

edited 3rd Apr '11 9:00:32 PM by Tzetze

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tnu1138 Dracula Since: Apr, 2009
Dracula
#72: Apr 3rd 2011 at 9:01:40 PM

Now whoi's Mr. Dec?

We must survive, all of us. The blood of a human for me, a cooked bird for you. Where is the difference?
Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
tnu1138 Dracula Since: Apr, 2009
Dracula
#74: Apr 3rd 2011 at 9:03:51 PM

Oh never heard of him I just don't trust people especially after somethign that happened tonight.

Ammendment: ok off the subject of tinfiol hats and on governmetn distrust.

edited 3rd Apr '11 9:06:43 PM by tnu1138

We must survive, all of us. The blood of a human for me, a cooked bird for you. Where is the difference?
johnnyfog Actual Wrestling Legend from the Zocalo Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
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#75: Apr 3rd 2011 at 9:32:20 PM

How about "off the subject of tnu?"

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