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johnnyfog Actual Wrestling Legend from the Zocalo Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
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#1: Apr 3rd 2011 at 5:55:16 PM

It's no secret that the entire internet hates the U.S. government for some reason or another. For most nations a constitutional republic would be viewed as a laudable goal. Here it's a leaden shackle around our necks.

So I'm curious, what was your breaking point? Fundies, marijuana, widespread surveillance, X-files. What?

I'm a skeptical squirrel
mailedbypostman Since: May, 2010
#2: Apr 3rd 2011 at 5:56:34 PM

Can't remember. Probably some time after I started reading.

Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
Oh My
#3: Apr 3rd 2011 at 5:56:56 PM

Sometime in my early teens. Not sure when exactly. Before that moment in time I just didn't give a shit about it.

edited 3rd Apr '11 5:57:15 PM by Aondeug

If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
tnu1138 Dracula Since: Apr, 2009
Dracula
#4: Apr 3rd 2011 at 5:56:57 PM

Research in to the actions of George Bush. Understanding of the two main ideologies which are oppressive in one way or the other. My US history class and watchng far too many You Tube Videos talking ab out the shit our government has pulled.

We must survive, all of us. The blood of a human for me, a cooked bird for you. Where is the difference?
DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven Since: Jan, 2011
#5: Apr 3rd 2011 at 5:58:25 PM

When I figured out that humans control it.

"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian
Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
tnu1138 Dracula Since: Apr, 2009
Dracula
#7: Apr 3rd 2011 at 5:59:59 PM

[up][up]

That is actually a pretty good point.

We must survive, all of us. The blood of a human for me, a cooked bird for you. Where is the difference?
MarkVonLewis Since: Jun, 2010
#8: Apr 3rd 2011 at 6:00:48 PM

I don't. Granted I don't agree with a lot our government does, but I sure as hell don't distrust them.

Shit, if I didn't trust the government I wouldn't have enlisted in the Army.

Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
Oh My
#9: Apr 3rd 2011 at 6:02:48 PM

Should I also mention that I don't have complete distrust in them? That might be important I guess.

If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
del_diablo Den harde nordmann from Somewher in mid Norway Since: Sep, 2009
Den harde nordmann
#10: Apr 3rd 2011 at 6:04:43 PM

I never "trusted" them in the first place, so I could never have started distrusting them.
As it is said: Humanity is evil, and the goverment is just one large pile of humanity constructed into a metaphorical machine for doing special tasks.
There is no reason to trust this machine, but there is a good reason to trust that this machine could achieve results.

A guy called dvorak is tired. Tired of humanity not wanting to change to improve itself. Quite the sad tale.
MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#11: Apr 3rd 2011 at 6:07:18 PM

I don't hate the US government. I just don't trust them to do anything not spelled out in the US Constitution.

You want government run health care? I have 45+ years of the failures called Medicare and Medicaid backing me up showing how incompetent the US Federal Government can do a venture of that kind.

MarkVonLewis Since: Jun, 2010
#12: Apr 3rd 2011 at 6:16:07 PM

^ This, pretty much. The US Government has shown a downright Three Stooges-level of incompetence in many things not in the constitution.

I mean I'm patriotic and all, but our govt has made a lot of poor calls.

edited 3rd Apr '11 6:16:34 PM by MarkVonLewis

izumoshep from Australia Since: Mar, 2011
#13: Apr 3rd 2011 at 6:21:11 PM

I don't distrust my government. Even when the party that I didn't vote for is in government I still trust them.

"Si vis pacem, para bellum"
tnu1138 Dracula Since: Apr, 2009
Dracula
#14: Apr 3rd 2011 at 6:24:29 PM

Well if I recall correctly yoru an authoritarian statist.

We must survive, all of us. The blood of a human for me, a cooked bird for you. Where is the difference?
TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apocalypse from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Night Clerk of the Apocalypse
#15: Apr 3rd 2011 at 6:27:16 PM

I am mixed. I do not ever trust their motives for many of their actions. I definetly do not trust them when it comes to businesses and money. As in their rather chummy relations with big business corporations and banks. I do not trust them to truly use the U.S. Military for what it is really for. I follow the line of thought of Smedley Butler on this stance.

My first taste of distrust was a combination of my first year in the U.S. Marines, history courses, and the 3 subsequent years of on and off study after that. It has gotten to the point where I think the system is effectively fucked no matter which side of the fence we choose short of a sudden and dramatic change.

Who watches the watchmen?
Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
NOT THE BEES
#16: Apr 3rd 2011 at 6:27:55 PM

Clinton and Lewinsky were my first big exposure to politics and media circusing. Needless to say, weaseling and perjury was not a reassuring first impression of the field.

Well, other than All That and the Ross Perot skits.

CommandoDude Since: Jun, 2010
#17: Apr 3rd 2011 at 6:38:17 PM

The Bush tax cuts.

That's when I realized, no, the GOP isn't stupid (mostly), it's bought.

It took a lot of Daily Show and The Young Turks episodes to help me along though.

edited 3rd Apr '11 6:38:52 PM by CommandoDude

tnu1138 Dracula Since: Apr, 2009
Dracula
#18: Apr 3rd 2011 at 6:39:59 PM

wait though wouldn't reasing taxes and forcing them to pay the money be more effective then being "bought"?

We must survive, all of us. The blood of a human for me, a cooked bird for you. Where is the difference?
CommandoDude Since: Jun, 2010
#19: Apr 3rd 2011 at 6:40:54 PM

[up] The politicians are bought. By people like the Koch brothers.

KCK Can I KCK it? from In your closet Since: Jul, 2010
Can I KCK it?
#20: Apr 3rd 2011 at 6:44:11 PM

It's not the government I don't trust, it's the people in it I don't trust.

There's no justice in the world and there never was~
Kyelin Since: Apr, 2010
#21: Apr 3rd 2011 at 6:44:55 PM

I don't. Politicians on the other hand....

Disclaimer: I hail from Australia, not the US

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Barkey Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#22: Apr 3rd 2011 at 6:54:24 PM

It's no secret that the entire internet hates the U.S. government for some reason or another.

I don't. I work for it.

I mean I don't trust it, but I don't really distrust it either. I just sort of understand that it's a machine ran by people. People who are fallible, and untrustworthy, and stupid as hell. But for every one of those guys in the government, there's another who genuinely wants to help, does their best, and is someone I would place my trust in.

It is what it is. I don't trust the figureheads much, but I understand the position of most of the cogs in the machine, seeing as I am one.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
I see the Awesomeness.
#23: Apr 3rd 2011 at 7:06:08 PM

Slightly before I stopped trusting people in general.

Fight smart, not fair.
tnu1138 Dracula Since: Apr, 2009
Dracula
#24: Apr 3rd 2011 at 7:08:11 PM

It actually took me till just now to stop trusting people in general and then it took Tomu to convince me of that.

We must survive, all of us. The blood of a human for me, a cooked bird for you. Where is the difference?
EricDVH Since: Jan, 2001
#25: Apr 3rd 2011 at 7:15:29 PM

Gimme a break, black helicoptor theories aside, did ANYONE here ever fit the mold of boyscout-like true blue patriotism, without the slightest air of cynicism or frustrated resignation to basic civic duties like juries or taxes?

Eric,


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